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re: Why Are You Against Abortion?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:22 pm to asurob1
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:22 pm to asurob1
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I will always defend a woman's choice and her ability to make one. Because at the end of the day it's her life we are talking about.
Rob I see where you have two daughters. Would you have supported your wife, while pregnant, to smoke crack? Be an alcoholic?
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:26 pm to asurob1
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IDGAF what a women does with her body. It's the body of an innocent child I'm concerned with.
And when the two issues merge?
The will to live of either one does not out way the other, unless by the consent of one of the parties involved.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:35 pm to Azranod
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You don't think that a single mother, with no job, no skills, and 4 kids, all of whom are on forms of government assistance(the mother and the kids) will vote for a candidate who wants to increase government assistance over a candidate who wants cuts made to these programs?
You have a very simple understanding of how the world works don't you.
Yeah, that's me insulting you directly.
People choose candidates based on who they "think" will suit their needs in their communities the best.
This is no different.
But I don't expect you to understand that.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:36 pm to Azranod
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No, the morals of society deem what is exceptable.
SO who chooses which ones?
Guys like you?
Guys like me?
It's a society...it means we all have a say in it.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:36 pm to Azranod
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What about the unborn child? Is it only an object? By the quote above you strike down a woman's prerogative to abort.
The unborn "child" has no rights as long as it depends on someone else to keep it alive.
Its a sad fact that you can continue to ignore if you like...but it remains a fact.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:38 pm to Lg
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Rob I see where you have two daughters. Would you have supported your wife, while pregnant, to smoke crack? Be an alcoholic?
Supported her right to. Sure.
Tried to get her to seek help..absolutely.
It's her body, whether or not I agree with her choices they are her choice. Frankly, if I had met a woman who I suspected was a crack addicted...i'm pretty sure my dick would have avoided knocking her up.
But then again I'm a pretty bright guy.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:39 pm to asurob1
You said people, I said teenagers, then you replied adults. You are the daft one.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:40 pm to Azranod
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The will to live of either one does not out way the other, unless by the consent of one of the parties involved.
um not sure what you are saying...so I will guess.
A fetus is completely depended on it's mom for life.
SO she wins ;-).
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:41 pm to asurob1
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What about the unborn child? Is it only an object? By the quote above you strike down a woman's prerogative to abort.
The unborn "child" has no rights as long as it depends on someone else to keep it alive.
Its a sad fact that you can continue to ignore if you like...but it remains a fact.
A born child depends on someone else to keep it alive. Does it have no rights?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:42 pm to asurob1
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We disagree. I'm not ignoring the 99 percent and making a big damn deal out of the 1 percent. I have never been pregnant. But I know plenty who have. And each and everyone of them recognizes that their life is now in jeopardy. Do these "special circumstances" happen a lot? No, but to the people it has happened to..it's a damn important thing. That 1 percent number you are quoting is people's lives.
I'm suggesting that the debate can occur without having to lump in the a separate debate about the 1% of pregnancies that are special case issues. (By the way, 1% is waaaaay high).
You don't want to put that on the side, because you use that as a tool in your argument in support for all abortions. It's dishonest to approach the argument that way.
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NO ledge here. It's all a part of the whole problem. We don't teach our kids about sex. We push that problem on to others. Then we complain about things like the STD rate, abortion etc etc.
Parents can raise their kids any damn way they want. All we can do is hope they are preparing them to live among us in society.
More and more too few do raise their kids and we have to put up with these unholy terrors.
If you can't see that watching to people frick on tv is worlds better then watching two people murder someone on tv...
I'm not going to argue this in this thread. Make another thread if you want. I'll say your comments are over simplistic and you are painting with a very broad brush.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:44 pm to asurob1
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The will to live of either one does not out way the other, unless by the consent of one of the parties involved.
um not sure what you are saying...so I will guess.
A fetus is completely depended on it's mom for life.
SO she wins ;-).
The mother can give consent to lay down her life to keep the child alive, the child can not give consent to lay down it's life to keep the mother alive.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:46 pm to Azranod
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ou said people, I said teenagers, then you replied adults. You are the daft one.
So I cleared up what I meant to you. And I'm the stupid one.
You know new guy. We need new blood here at politard talk. And I welcome you, but try to slow down a bit and actually think about what you are typing before you hit the submit button...or you are headed for a life of buffoonery here on the political forums.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:47 pm to Azranod
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A born child depends on someone else to keep it alive. Does it have no rights?
sigh
A newborn no longer depends on a specific human being for life.
Once he or she is out of that vagina...any one will do.
Not so much with a fetus.
See the difference yet?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:47 pm to asurob1
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Tried to get her to seek help..absolutely.
Why? You have no say in the matter. Only to support her and her choice.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:50 pm to moneyg
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You don't want to put that on the side, because you use that as a tool in your argument in support for all abortions. It's dishonest to approach the argument that way.
A tool, not the tool. At the end of the day I completely support a woman's right to choose an abortion if that's what she wishes...no matter her circumstance.
I also support her right to give birth and put it up for adoption, no matter her circumstance.
I also support her right to give birth and raise it, again, no matter her circumstance.
I support her ability to make any of those choices.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:51 pm to asurob1
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But then again I'm a pretty bright guy.
Grammar Knotsi would care to argue that point as it is improper to start a sentence with a conjunction. Plus:
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um not sure what you are saying...so I will guess.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:51 pm to Wes B
This fricker got 13 pages out of this BS OP with a header and no body?
Has he even posted in the thread since that troll?
Has he even posted in the thread since that troll?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:51 pm to Azranod
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The mother can give consent to lay down her life to keep the child alive, the child can not give consent to lay down it's life to keep the mother alive.
halleluiah!
correct.
I almost think I'm making progress here.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:53 pm to asurob1
Just pointing out how using those broad sweeping terms make you appear daft.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:53 pm to Lg
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Why? You have no say in the matter. Only to support her and her choice.
I don't have a say so in the matter. But I do have an opinion.
I can completely disagree agree with someone's choices in life and completely support them and their right to choose shite I think is wrong.
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