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Star Wars - A New Hope: How Flawed is it?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:32 pm
Discuss.
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:33 pm to Freauxzen
Nobody ever goes to a Star at any point in the movies, so the biggest flaw is in the name
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:02 pm to Freauxzen
Dang. Letting the bitch Fest spill into a spinoff thread.
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Popkerns
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:10 pm to Freauxzen
I thought it was a bit of a stretch that luke, a farm boy with very little experience, was able to get into an x-wing and dominate over other experienced fighters .
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:24 pm to Freauxzen
My Uncle once told me he walked out of Star Wars saying something negative about the movie having a teddy bear (I shudder to think what he would have thought of ROTJ and Ewoks ), so I guess with so much of the film being alien in nature, that might limit it's accessibility.
I had all the toys, bed sheets, curtains, lunch boxes, etc. so the only flaw I see is that it spawned the prequels.
I had all the toys, bed sheets, curtains, lunch boxes, etc. so the only flaw I see is that it spawned the prequels.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:36 pm to Freauxzen
I haven't seen A New Hope all the way through in a long time, so my memory will have to serve me well (and I don't think it will):
A New Hope is a relatively slow, meandering film with bad acting from much of the core cast. It's director is timid behind the camera, as I recall, with nothing to really make you think much was going on with the visual telling of the story other than to set up a scene so the actors can deliver lines. Instead, the director largely relies on visual effects to blow away the audience. In such a fashion, Lucas is more an engineer than a director. And then, for a film that was so dramatically advanced in terms of its visual effects, it has not aged nearly as well as other relatively contemporaneous sci-fi films (e.g. Blade Runner). As far as story goes, it had holes in it. One of them was how the shite Luke was a master X-Wing pilot as mentioned earlier. But there were others, I'm sure, that I do not remember.
Those are its flaws as I can remember. I remember being rather bored as a kid when watching it. It is something like how the Fellowship of the Ring is a bit of a bore in parts. The difference is that the Fellowship of the Ring is far better in every aspect (though no doubt thanks, in large part, to A New Hope's advancement in the area of visual effects).
All that said, it is not a flawed film. It works. And it does what so many films fail to do: set up a new universe that no one had any background in and weave elements of mythology, religion, action, adventure, comedy, romance, and all the other wonderful things it has in it. Despite its flaws, it is a marvel in filmmaking.
A New Hope is a relatively slow, meandering film with bad acting from much of the core cast. It's director is timid behind the camera, as I recall, with nothing to really make you think much was going on with the visual telling of the story other than to set up a scene so the actors can deliver lines. Instead, the director largely relies on visual effects to blow away the audience. In such a fashion, Lucas is more an engineer than a director. And then, for a film that was so dramatically advanced in terms of its visual effects, it has not aged nearly as well as other relatively contemporaneous sci-fi films (e.g. Blade Runner). As far as story goes, it had holes in it. One of them was how the shite Luke was a master X-Wing pilot as mentioned earlier. But there were others, I'm sure, that I do not remember.
Those are its flaws as I can remember. I remember being rather bored as a kid when watching it. It is something like how the Fellowship of the Ring is a bit of a bore in parts. The difference is that the Fellowship of the Ring is far better in every aspect (though no doubt thanks, in large part, to A New Hope's advancement in the area of visual effects).
All that said, it is not a flawed film. It works. And it does what so many films fail to do: set up a new universe that no one had any background in and weave elements of mythology, religion, action, adventure, comedy, romance, and all the other wonderful things it has in it. Despite its flaws, it is a marvel in filmmaking.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 1:43 pm to Freauxzen
Biggest Flaw: That Luke got two torpedoes to bend at a 90 degree angle, and then magically fly straight for the entire radius of the Death Star, and that both torpedoes went into a hole about the size of a womprat.....at the same time.
Without the aide of a targeting computer.
Without the aide of a targeting computer.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:10 pm to Freauxzen
if this is aimed at me, i said it was flawed as in it has flaws yet is still seen as great(which i clarified in the other thread).
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:44 pm to Freauxzen
The biggest flaw was the ceremony at the end that gave Lucas the idea to use it again in some of the other films.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:53 pm to Freauxzen
You know that cool sound the Tie Fighters make when they fly by?
Well that's bullshite because you can't hear jack shite in outer space.
Well that's bullshite because you can't hear jack shite in outer space.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:35 pm to Freauxzen
I guess it wasn't a flaw until after 1,2 and 3 were made, but why did Ben not remember C3PO or R2D2?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:53 pm to Freauxzen
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:28 pm to Freauxzen
Star Wars has no flaws. It has an answer to everything and that is The Force.
If you go into a Sci-fi film looking for reality then i would have to say you are the flawed one.
If you go into a Sci-fi film looking for reality then i would have to say you are the flawed one.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:54 pm to Freauxzen
First, it's just Star Wars.
Second, Luke was a whiny bitch.
Third, Greedo didn't shoot at all. He was shot.
Fourth, Darth Vader killed Anakin Skywalker. Darth was his name, not his title.
George Lucas should never make another movie. Ever.
Second, Luke was a whiny bitch.
Third, Greedo didn't shoot at all. He was shot.
Fourth, Darth Vader killed Anakin Skywalker. Darth was his name, not his title.
George Lucas should never make another movie. Ever.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:29 pm to Freauxzen
I'm sure it has its flaws but they never really bothered me.
I think it comes down to it is a pretty classic, simple but enjoyable plot (I mean we literally have the farm boy, the princess and the good hearted rogue) welded to a new generation of special effects.
Compared to other movies with classic plots and innovative special effects/"style", I'd put it ahead of something like 300 and on a level with or a little behind something like the original Matrix.
I think it comes down to it is a pretty classic, simple but enjoyable plot (I mean we literally have the farm boy, the princess and the good hearted rogue) welded to a new generation of special effects.
Compared to other movies with classic plots and innovative special effects/"style", I'd put it ahead of something like 300 and on a level with or a little behind something like the original Matrix.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:50 pm to Freauxzen
The only flaw is anyone referring to the original as anything other than STAR WARS.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:16 am to Freauxzen
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Star Wars - A New Hope: How Flawed is it?
It was and still is a great film. I don't look for flaws; I just try to immerse myself in the context of the story and enjoy it. Star Wars is and will always be a groundbreaking classic.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:33 pm to Freauxzen
It's my favorite one. Followed very closely by Empire. Then Jedi.
It was ahead of it's time when it was made in 1977. Still looks great in all aspects.
I don't see it flawed at all.
One of my favorite scenes in the entire movie, and it's just a nothing little scene, is the one where Chewie and R2 are playing, I guess it's checkers or chess, but the pieces are little hologramic monsters. That part cracked me up when I was little. I still laugh at it when the R2's big whatever it is body slam's Chewie's piece and he flips out about it.
It was ahead of it's time when it was made in 1977. Still looks great in all aspects.
I don't see it flawed at all.
One of my favorite scenes in the entire movie, and it's just a nothing little scene, is the one where Chewie and R2 are playing, I guess it's checkers or chess, but the pieces are little hologramic monsters. That part cracked me up when I was little. I still laugh at it when the R2's big whatever it is body slam's Chewie's piece and he flips out about it.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:36 pm
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