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re: Organ Donation: Why don't more people do it?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:09 am to Real Pirate
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:09 am to Real Pirate
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I don't want the doctors pulling the plug on me prematurely. My family knows that when I pass, any organs I have that are still good they're free to donate. I didn't want the little heart on my DL.
I think quite a few people feel this way but that is one of the major issues. Family members are grieving over your death and don't want to make a decision for you so they just don't make one and your organs spoil.
I don't want my family having to make that decision right after I die so I just have the heart on my driver's license. No one is going to kill you for the heart on your license. If someone in a back alley really wants your kidney they won't give a shite if you are an organ donor or not. In their eyes you just became one.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:11 am to The Last Coco
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The Last Coco
It's not the best article for sure but it's short enough not to take 15 min just to read it. I just really wanted to see if people aren't organ donors and why they aren't.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:14 am to Throbinhood
I was kidding about being killed over the heart on my DL. I know that my family has had to make that exact decision several times recently. It hasn't been an issue but I can see how people grieving aren't in the best decision making mode. Ive had this discussion with all of my immediate family and most of my distant family. We have about 50/50 of both in our family. We also have several senile older members that don't want to go to the afterlife without a kidney.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:24 am to unbeWEAVEable
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but the moment of death is disputed.
Where did you see this?
Btw, I'm an organ donor.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:28 am to Throbinhood
Many people won't do anything unless there is something in it for them.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 8:31 am
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:33 am to TypoKnig
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Two main reasons I can think of...
1. People think they will need their organs in the afterlife. i.e. people are stupid
2. Some people believe medical personnel are less likely to revive you. i.e. people are stupid
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:36 am to Master of Sinanju
I think the biggest reason is the same as why so many people don't do a will or do their own funeral arrangements. People just don't like to think about their upcoming death.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:40 am to Real Pirate
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I know that my family has had to make that exact decision several times recently. It hasn't been an issue but I can see how people grieving aren't in the best decision making mode. Ive had this discussion with all of my immediate family and most of my distant family
This is the key to help family at a bad time of loosing a love one.
As a person that is in need of a heart and go to a heart transplant center once a month and see others that are in need, all my family are donators now. To see people before and after getting a heart transplant, is a sight to see.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:41 am to Throbinhood
I'm a donor. Goodluck racing against the clock to harvest mine
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:41 am to Real Pirate
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Real Pirate
That's awesome that you've talked to your family about it. I think that is a major part is people don't want to talk about it. I can understand a will or a funeral because both of those can really hit a person and make them realize they are on the downward slope. But an organ donation is something you can decide when you are 16 and be done with it.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:46 am to Throbinhood
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:46 am to Throbinhood
quote:Thats my outlook on it
I won't need my organs when I die so why not give them to someone to save their life.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:55 am to TigerTatorTots
my grandmothers life was saved because of a liver transplant, i will definitely donate.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:31 am to Throbinhood
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This article says that 18 people die everyday on the organ transplant waiting list, and just one organ donor can save or improve up to 50 peoples lives.
Here's how it works: only certain kinds of injury before death lead people to a position where they can donate soft organs (heart, lungs, liver , kidneys, pancreas, etx). Moreover, when that person is brain dead and being kept alive by a ventilator, they have limited amounts of time to "match" someone for transplant. It's way more intense than matching for a blood donation ( exception is the liver, I believe), because the recipient needs to be safe ( otherwise their body would slowly calcify/ruin the new organ). The rate of people becoming brain death + matching these other people while also not having major infectious diseases (either long term like HIV or hepatitis c, or short term like a systemic bacterial infection) is lower than ideal for people on the list. Kidneys can be donated after death in special circumstances. I've seen it once in 5 or so years of being involved with these sorts of things. When you see the number "50" they include things like tendons, ligaments, heart valves (in non-heart donors), bones, skin, and corneas. These types of donation can be done in almost any type of death in people without current infectious disease. And they're done very commonly.
Lastly, outside of the number of instances that this arises, the family is contacted immediately after they have learned of their loved (usually) one's untimely passing and are asked if the deceased would've wanted to donate. They then explain the procedure. For organs, they make an incision from just under the neckline to just above the pubic bone and put a clamp on the aorta then take most internal organs out. Then they sew it back up. For the eyes, you have to explain that you're going to cut the front part (or all in some cases) of the person's eye out. This particularly freaks some people out. Then for bones and stuff, they have to explain how they basically make incisions from just below shoulder to just above wrist, just below hip to just above ankle. They'll forego the upper limb stuff if the person is to be buried in short sleeves. But in all cases , the body is put back together/sewn back up so that people at the funeral would never know that the person is missing their eyes, most of their bones, and most of their organs. It's not pleasant to think of your loved one being butchered like that after they, say, got in a car wreck merely hours before. The timing is a big factor, the thought of the process is another.
I agree though, I wish more people donated when eligible.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:32 am to Hammertime
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Nobody wants my liver
My dad when I told him I was an organ donor:
"If they knew what you've done to your body, they'd pay you to keep your organs"
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:34 am to Throbinhood
Shouldn't be optional in my opinion.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:36 am to wallowinit
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Because of this this and this and many more such cases.
To be sure that this is clear (since I read the gist of only one of the articles), the potential donor must be declared brain dead by two different doctors ( neurologists, frequently) at two different times. Neither of these doctors has anything to do with the organ retrieval NOR the recipient of the organs. They're essentially an unbiased 3 rd and 4th party. The "bias" does come in the form that they are asked to perform brain death studies, so they may have some sort of preconceived notion as to whether the person should be brain-alive or brain-dead, but for the most part, they have no reason to deceive anyone as far as their documentation goes.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:38 am to Throbinhood
Agree with reasons already stated. Also, it just freaks some people out to have their organs harvested (per my own research). My personal opinion is it would be a whole lot better if the U.S. used auto-consent (you were automatically enrolled and have to opt out).
My dad has been on the liver transplant list for 2.5 years (alcoholic cirrhosis). There are also many people that disagree with giving an alcoholic a new liver.
I think many non-donors simply have not experienced a close friend or family member dying or having their life saved over an organ donation. And they can't empathize.
My dad has been on the liver transplant list for 2.5 years (alcoholic cirrhosis). There are also many people that disagree with giving an alcoholic a new liver.
I think many non-donors simply have not experienced a close friend or family member dying or having their life saved over an organ donation. And they can't empathize.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:38 am to Hopeful Doc
i just know that the surgeons took nearly everything they could when my dad died. our only requests, as absurd as they may sound now, if that they kept his hands and his lips.
we had never really discussed it as a family, but we had to make a split second decision. it was just the right thing to do.....help as many as possibly in the face of devastating personal tragedy.
we had never really discussed it as a family, but we had to make a split second decision. it was just the right thing to do.....help as many as possibly in the face of devastating personal tragedy.
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