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re: Low standards hurt the average/slightly above average than anyone else?

Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by lsu480
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

I got through high school, college, and law school with nothing more than a nightly cram session. No real hard work involved.

Now I find myself without a "real" job and no prospects to really speak of.


You have a law degree and can't find a job? Seriously?
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
71393 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

I'm hard pressed to say that I wouldn't have been better being flunked out after my 1st year of law school as previous years were so used to.


I was mistaken, you are still blaming others. Your situation is your own fault. You can either keep wallowing in your own pity party, or you can remember you are in control of your life. Get a job as a manager of a fast food place, or use your lawyer skills for something.

I have been an open book on graduating with a terrible GPA, anxiety issues, and no experience. I was a mess, I was looked at as inferior at job fairs, I would put out 40 resumes a week with no response. I finally had a company who showed interest, just to not talk to me after the interview. I finally got a job, and I busted my arse to show them I was talented and valuable. My life has got much better.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 10:39 pm
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:31 pm to
fricking up in college my first few years was the best thing that ever happened to me.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:36 pm to
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You have a law degree and can't find a job? Seriously?


I can find "jobs" easily. I can't find jobs that will be helpful with the debt i incurred to reach my level of education as.
Posted by Jcorye1
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71393 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:39 pm to
Take a job and move up.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:43 pm to
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was mistaken, you are still blaming others. Your situation is your own fault


I agree to a point but that is also the question of my OP.

Yes I could have worked harder and gotten a great job. My fault is mine. I don't blame others.

Hindsight being 20/20 though and in a general sense wouldn't most people be better off with harder standards? To either prove you belong or make a different choice earlier?

My generation & the current one seems to be on a "adulthood begins at 30" plan bad I don't think that is the best option.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:53 pm to
You are looking for people to tell you that your opinion is valid to qwell your own demons. I won't be a part of that.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:04 am to
It's all about who you know
Posted by Snatchy
Member since Nov 2009
3281 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:08 am to
Can't buy a degree in hustle.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23876 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:08 am to
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Can't buy a degree in hustle.



you also can't teach tall, black, and fast
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40512 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:18 am to
I kind of agree with you. I had to work my arse off at a competitive high school just to get Bs. I ended up going to LSU for financial reasons and the standards were not demanding. I ended up developing horrible habits and never had a chance at the law school I got into based on grades I didn't even need to earn.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17317 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:40 am to
The paradox here is that you chose the lower standards you're now blaming for your situation in life. From what I can gather, law school caters to people who are all too accustomed to winging it and getting by on their ability to bullshite. I only say that because it takes one to know one.

There are plenty of majors in college that offer even the average student a shot at a good career with just a little hard work. The issue is that you chose to skate around them because they seemed like a drag. This isn't a problem with society, it's quite possibly the only reason left to have hope.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:53 am to
If you have a law degree and can't find a good job then you must be the most incompetent person in the world
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:56 am to
Do yourself a favor and just go do menial labor..... win/win
Posted by lsutothetop
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:06 am to
I don't know to what extent it's standards, it's getting your arse kicked good and hard. You can have the best parents in the world who tell you all the right things, but you never learn to respect failure and the hard work needed to avoid it until you've experienced it yourself.

It's being sheltered -- not just from material scarcity or social adversity, but we're talking living in a bubble and being afraid to try something you might fail at. Kids who coast through school without challenging extracurriculars, whether you're talking sports or the quiz bowl team, don't learn what it really means to fail and what it takes to avoid it.

Doc Fenton also said it upthread, you gotta have a direction too. You can't ever truly experience failure in a given direction if you never commit to any given direction. Aimlessness is another big problem, more for college students than high school or post-undergrad.

I'm not sure to what extent higher standards help with that, because I don't think academic standards are where most people get their asses kicked early. It's in extracurriculars. And costs are a lot more effective than standards in fighting aimlessness; when you simply can't afford to dick around anymore, you'll shite or get off the pot real fast. Higher standards are more likely just to frustrate aimless people without actually fixing the problem, which does no one any good.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:11 am to
quote:

fricking up in college my first few years was the best thing that ever happened to me.


Same.

College is so overrated.
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