re: Game of Thrones S4:E3:"Breaker of Chains", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

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Is Littlefinger involved in the plot? He had to be to knot to send "The Fool" into the city to get Sansa...how would he know otherwise of an opportune time to get Sansa out of Kings Landing? If its Littlefish, then he might already have the backing of the Bank of Braavos. Littlefinger crushing the necklace make me think Joffrey was poisoned some other way. Doesnt seem now that one of the crystals was used in the killing.

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What in the....

This is why book readers laugh at us.

Littlefinger orchestrated the whole thing via the necklace. There are pictures out there of the necklace missing a crystal from the episode two weeks ago. He threw it down there to implicate Sansa. He's got a major hard on for her which we saw last season.

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If a crystal was missing, why the need to break an empty one on the remaining necklace?

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You can not break real jewels that easily... He was proving to her that the necklace was just a fake

I didn't really interpret Jaime/Cersei's scene as "rape". I suppose she was saying no, but she kept saying it's not right. I think she wanted it but was feeling guilty about the time and place.

Or maybe I'm just rationalizing because I love the kingslayer.

Oh and Littlefinger I knew he was behind this somehow

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but she's already married to Tyrion, right?

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well (1) everyone assumes he's dead in a fortnight and (2) they didn't consummate the marriage

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I didn't really interpret Jaime/Cersei's scene as "rape". I suppose she was saying no, but she kept saying it's not right. I think she wanted it but was feeling guilty about the time and place.

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At this point, I don't think Sansa needs much convincing - but she's already married to Tyrion, right?

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Are they actually married since it has not been consummated?

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Only about a half-dozen people know this,

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i'm sure her hymen tells the tale

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True - but I wouldn't count Tyrion out quite yet.

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i won't, either, but i'm sure littlefinger's ego is doing that

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Tywin is my favorite character on the show right now. He's evil but at least his character is consistent and transparent. Great speech on the old kings.

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Walter White wears Tywin Lannister pajamas

Decent episode, although not too much really happened.

Tywin was bossing it up all episode. I assume he has to die at some point, but I hope not because he's still easily my favorite character. I love how zero fricks were given when he was schooling Tommen right there at Joffrey's dead body...even after Cersei tried to get him to stop. His attitude still makes me wonder if he was connected in some way to the poisoning. And I'm interested to see how Tyrion's trial goes with Tywin basically controlling all three of the judges.

Petyr Baelish, fricking finally. And it looks like he was one of the main ones behind Joff's downfall...and he has Sansa (whom he is obsessed with) on his boat in the middle of nowhere. Interested to see where that story goes.

Is Olenna planning on Margaery marrying Tommen? Her "the next one should be easier" comment (or whatever she said) makes me wonder.

Cersei was finally vulnerable. Too bad it came about 5 seconds before an "almost rape" of her brother/lover damn near on top of the body of her dead son. That was an intense scene...her saying no but then also embracing Jaime and wanting it.

Could've done without the Arya/Hound scenes...they actually sort of bored me this week (and I hate that). I assume it's to show that Arya needs to grow up a bit and realize that being hardened (like the Hound) isn't always a bad thing; and the flip side is that maybe Hound is becoming a LITTLE less hardened since I assume he normally wouldn't have really thought twice about killing that farmer and stealing his silver, but instead he left them alive. I still love the two of them being together, because they are entertaining..I just thought it fell sort of flat to me.

The whole Castle Black situation confuses me though...the wildlings (Tormund and Ygritte and those "Prometheus Engineer" looking Thenns) climbed the Wall and their plan has been to attack Castle Black. However, Cb is on the Wall (which we see confirmed when the rangers return). So why are the wildlings so far south attacking villages and whatnot instead of heading for CB? Seems like they would've just gone straight there and waited for Mance and his army...or are they just sacking these villages for fun and to kill time..?

Glad we finally got some Davos screen time, but I wish we'd have seen more of him. I guess he's about to request money from the IBoB to procure an army..?

They need to go somewhere with Daenerys fricking fast. The rinse/repeat thing of her moving from city to city is getting tiresome. And we didn't even see dragons this week. As much as I love that chick, she needs to get to the sea fricking SOON.

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So why are the wildlings so far south attacking villages and whatnot instead of heading for CB?

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to draw out the forces of castle black in the open, leaving castle black without a defense

think of it like at the end of robb's war when he couldn't do shite until he drew out the lannisters, except in reverse

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They need to go somewhere with Daenerys fricking fast. The rinse/repeat thing of her moving from city to city is getting tiresome. And we didn't even see dragons this week. As much as I love that chick, she needs to get to the sea fricking SOON.

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i agree

perhaps mareen is where she suffers he first loss