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re: Game of Thrones S4:E3:"Breaker of Chains", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:08 am to
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:08 am to
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Jumbeauxlaya


well done, sir. im wondering if Tywin will want to marry Tommen off immediately. or will cersi try to delay it so she can be queen regent some more.

The littlefinger stuff is interesting. where exactly has he been on this time? did he go to the veil or not?

I feel the Lannisters "winning" only put a lot more shite on their plates and the only one who realizes it is Tywin. if he falls, the Lannisters dont stand a chance, especially with Braavos starting to enter the picture. its going to be a fun season.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:09 am to
I hope Sam's character has some sort of redemption at some point, because he's been a bitch thus far (even the White Walker was a desperate "survival" situation).
Posted by Murtagh
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:11 am to
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Decent episode, although not too much really happened.


I think the opposite. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of killing going on, or main characters dying, but it setup pretty much the rest of the season.

You have the trial, the war on the wall, whatever Davos is conjuring up.

Possible reuniting of Sansa and Arya. (Petyr is supposed to be going to the Eyrie; that's where the Hound is taking Arya)

The new king.

I am upset about the no dragons, but I like the way she sent a message without them. Like, I don't need dragons to take this city, I'll do it from the inside out.

I just wish there were more episodes in a season. That seems like a lot of stuff to wrap up in 7 hours.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:14 am to
I was looking at the House Targaryen family tree to try and refresh myself on so many of these relationships.

but at the start of it all with Aegon the Conqueror, it says his bastard brother started the house baratheon. which is kind of interesting. so that means robert, stennis, and renly are actually very distant relatives to the Targaryens.

Is every family in Westeros interbred at some point?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:25 am to
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but at the start of it all with Aegon the Conqueror, it says his bastard brother started the house baratheon


Orys Baratheon was rumored to be the bastard half-brother of Aegon I. He was rewarded with Storm's End, and the founding of his house, after defeating the last of the Storm Kings.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:30 am to
pretty interesting. im sure thats all it is though.

i wonder if Martin takes so long to write books since it seems he spends a large amount of time on the history instead of advancing the present
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:37 am to
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i wonder if Martin takes so long to write books since it seems he spends a large amount of time on the history instead of advancing the present


It is very much in the LOTR template - Tolkien (J.R.R. Tolkien, thank you very much) - wrote extensive histories and supporting documentation - he created family trees and extensive histories even for characters that might appear once or twice in thousands of pages.

Martin appears to be doing the same thing.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 11:38 am
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:38 am to
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The littlefinger stuff is interesting. where exactly has he been on this time? did he go to the veil or not?


i think he's been on the ship the entire time planning the assassination.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:42 am to
this post is hilarious to me.

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Decent episode, although not too much really happened.



Not much happened. followed by 462 words about the episode
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:48 am to
So i know Sam appears pretty worthless but just look at him in the same way you would Sam from the lord the rings imo... just not as tough.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:49 am to
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i think he's been on the ship the entire time planning the assassination.


He was last seen in Season 3 in The Climb - so well before the Red Wedding, but it isn't always clear how much real time passes on some of the threads.

It is possible he went to the Eyrie and dropped a few things off, made some contacts, and headed right back - but I tend to think you're correct - I don't think he left Blackwater Bay not even to Dragonstone - hard to imagine he would have had time. Perhaps he sent some folks ahead to prepare, but I don't think he left the immediate area.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:06 pm to
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Not much happened. followed by 462 words about the episode

I mean in terms of storylines advancing. A couple of them advanced a LITTLE bit. The rest of them were either stagnant (Arya/Hound and Dragonstone to be honest) or incessantly repetitive (Dany). But there was still an hour's worth of television, so obviously there are things to comment on.
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:10 pm to
It's the only show that gets to 8:50 and i think it's only been on for 20 minutes.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:27 pm to
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It's the only show that gets to 8:50 and i think it's only been on for 20 minutes.


I wish I had the patience to not watch during the season and just binge watch them all at once. Like a 10 hour movie. Episode by episode goes by too quickly.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:29 pm to
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which is kind of interesting. so that means robert, stennis, and renly are actually very distant relatives to the Targaryens.



Their grandmother was also a Targaryen if I remember correctly. This was Roberts claim to the throne and why he was able to get the other kingdoms to agree with him as king.

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Is every family in Westeros interbred at some point?


This tends to happen to keep power
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:30 pm to
I know I am going to be crucified for saying this but is anyone else bored with this season? Things have been moving at a snails pace with very limited action or female breasts.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 12:31 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:31 pm to
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im wondering if Tywin will want to marry Tommen off immediately. or will cersi try to delay it so she can be queen regent some more.

i think the "coffin" scene has established cersei has no fricking say so in any of that shite anymore
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:34 pm to
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I know I am going to be crucified for saying this but is anyone else bored with this season?

Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Their grandmother was also a Targaryen if I remember correctly


just looked at their family tree. she was a Targaryen. didnt realize that. I guess power gets so convoluted that distant relatives arent really considered that much of family since everyone is related.

back to the episode, I think Blackwater had to have been months ago. I dont know if Littlefinger sat on a ship for months just waiting. He couldve made it to the vale and back
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:59 pm to
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back to the episode, I think Blackwater had to have been months ago. I dont know if Littlefinger sat on a ship for months just waiting. He couldve made it to the vale and back


But Littlefinger didn't leave right after Blackwater - he left much later - not long before Tyrion and Sansa's wedding - remember - the last thing he did, other than sending Ros to her death in Joffrey's bedroom, was to quash the whole, "Marry Sansa to Loras"-scheme of Varys and Olenna. I'm not saying he didn't have time to rush to the Eyrie and get back, or even that he didn't, but I just don't think he did.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 1:00 pm
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