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re: Carney: Obama's toughest 2012 election interview done by Jon Stewart
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:05 pm to DR Hops
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:05 pm to DR Hops
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I suppose you have proof of this assumption?
I don't have the books or the slides anymore but it was talked about in several of my poli sci classes- specifically mass media, public opinion and political parties classes
eta- found some pew data. Numbers have changed a little bit since I last saw them but they're still pretty similar
LINK
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:06 pm to wilfont
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I can recall Katie Couric asking him his favorite color and favorite ice cream in 2008.
That's GOTCHA JOURNALISM right there.
She might as well ask him "What do you read?"
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:12 pm to Mac
I have a feeling the MSM's fervor for holding power in check will be "rediscovered" in 2016.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:21 pm to Duke
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He has a POV that's pretty well known after over a decade on the air. There's equal treatment and then there's fair treatment. Stewart falls to the latter.
i think thats a pretty accurate assessment. hes certainly not disguising that he has an opinion on his show. while i may not agree with a lot of his stances i do respect that he will call out both sides on things that he doesnt agree with or when he thinks they are being dishonest.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:44 pm to Cockopotamus
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People who watch The Daily Show or Colbert...
eta- and most identify as Independents, not Democrats
LINK
While the majority of the people who watch the Daily Show or Colbert are not democrats the plurality probably are.
Colbert: 12% republican, 38% independent, 45% democrat (14% conservative, 42% moderate, 40% liberal)
Daily Show: 10% republican, 41% independent, 45% democrat (14$ conservative, 42% moderate, 43% liberal)
Regarding your comment that watching the Daily Show and Colbert regularly means you are more likely to be informed there's some evidence to support that:
Some of this may be confounding since both the Daily Show and the Colbert Report are satirical send ups of current events (and a similar show from the right side of the spectrum might test similarly if you look at the lumped talk radio results). Anyway, there's more than one study with this type of finding (especially that Fox News probably ranks last in terms of quality if you evaluate viewer understanding of objective current events). Here's another one:
LINK
This is not to say other media are not substandard and sometimes terrible. The quality of CNN for example is also deplorable IMO. It just points out Fox may do the worst job of any of the media outlets.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:28 pm to Chimlim
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So Obamas toughest interview was done by Comedy Central?
That says a lot about the Network News departments
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:34 pm to molsusports
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While the majority of the people who watch the Daily Show or Colbert are not democrats the plurality probably are.
Yea I misremembered the numbers.
My point still stands that they are informed and have a large independent/moderate audience.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:37 pm to molsusports
Gotta love that our media is so terrible that watching Fox or MSNBC actually makes you less informed than if you had just broken your TV set and stared at the blank screen.
The whole D vs R shell game really boosts the ratings though!
The whole D vs R shell game really boosts the ratings though!
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:38 pm to Cockopotamus
So we're supposed to believe that people who watch no news are better informed on current events than people who watch Fox News ??? What a joke, I'd like to see the questions asked. And that goes for any news station if they ranked below "no news"
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:47 pm to fleaux
Looks like it was just asking about TV news. I don't watch any TV news and consider myself fairly informed regarding current events.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 4:55 pm to fleaux
So you watch Fox News huh?
Fox News and msnbc are terrible at informing viewers because they're echo chambers- they only tell the audience what they want to here.
And the "no news" is tv news. Other forms of media are where they got answers
Fox News and msnbc are terrible at informing viewers because they're echo chambers- they only tell the audience what they want to here.
And the "no news" is tv news. Other forms of media are where they got answers
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:00 pm to Cockopotamus
Gotcha, guess i didnt read it closely enough... And i dont watch any national news the way my schedule has been lately, watch some local news in the AM and check a few websites during the day
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:02 pm to TideCPA
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watching Fox or MSNBC actually makes you less informed than if you had just broken your TV set and stared at the blank screen.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:07 pm to Mac
Draconian Sanctions once cited the Daily Show like it was some peer reviewed scholarly article. Tells me all I need to know about it.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:34 pm to Mac
To admit this is such black eye on not only the media but the president.. Pitiful
Posted on 4/17/14 at 6:04 pm to Cockopotamus
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Stewart does a great job with his interviews and will call out Democrats and Republicans. He made Nancy Pelosi look like an idiot not too long ago
Say what you will about his political leanings, but the guy delivers on interviews.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 6:07 pm to fleaux
quote:I actually watch zero news channels. I don't even have cable in my living room.
So we're supposed to believe that people who watch no news are better informed on current events than people who watch Fox News ??? What a joke, I'd like to see the questions asked. And that goes for any news station if they ranked below "no news"
I am fairly well informed.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:55 am to TideCPA
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Gotta love that our media is so terrible that watching Fox or MSNBC actually makes you less informed than if you had just broken your TV set and stared at the blank screen.
Well, in Fox's defense, their audience is huge, so there are still large raw numbers of well-informed people tuning in.
As MSNBC's audience is so small, relatively speaking, AND uninformed - I think that speaks for itself.
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