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re: Armed robber was never told to report to prison

Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
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Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:40 pm to
I got a ticket for running through a toll booth in florida a few years ago. It was 2 AM and there was no operator in the booth. I had no change, so I threw a dollar in knowing it would not register.

I called the phone number for the florida DMV and a girl told me they had registered my tag and issued a citation but "not to worry about it unless I got a ticket mailed to me." She was not able tomgive me that in writing so I forced her to give me the number on the ticket and I mailed them a check which they did not cash forma month.

I was not going to let something I DID WRONG linger out there for who knows how long.

This dude should have picked up a phone and called after a few months. He is responsible and should serve time. Full sentence? IDK. But he should serve time.

Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:46 pm to
This man should be given a probation period and perhaps do community service instead.

Real thugs need to go to prison and rot. You know. O.J. Simpson ?

The justice system isn't perfect but a man trying to turn his life around and do the right thing should be given some consideration.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

I got a ticket for running through a toll booth in florida a few years ago. It was 2 AM and there was no operator in the booth. I had no change, so I threw a dollar in knowing it would not register.

I called the phone number for the florida DMV and a girl told me they had registered my tag and issued a citation but "not to worry about it unless I got a ticket mailed to me." She was not able tomgive me that in writing so I forced her to give me the number on the ticket and I mailed them a check which they did not cash forma month.

I was not going to let something I DID WRONG linger out there for who knows how long.

This dude should have picked up a phone and called after a few months. He is responsible and should serve time. Full sentence? IDK. But he should serve time.



Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65133 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:55 pm to
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This dude should have picked up a phone and called after a few months. He is responsible and should serve time. Full sentence? IDK. But he should serve time.


I really hope you are being sarcastic because this is quite possibly one of the dumbest comparisons I have ever read. Yours was a citation that would have cost you a few bucks. His was a sentence of 13 years in prison.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51438 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:58 pm to
Change it to a suspended sentence or supervised release. He screws up, back to jail
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

I got a ticket for running through a toll booth in florida a few years ago. It was 2 AM and there was no operator in the booth. I had no change, so I threw a dollar in knowing it would not register.

I called the phone number for the florida DMV and a girl told me they had registered my tag and issued a citation but "not to worry about it unless I got a ticket mailed to me." She was not able tomgive me that in writing so I forced her to give me the number on the ticket and I mailed them a check which they did not cash forma month.

I was not going to let something I DID WRONG linger out there for who knows how long.

This dude should have picked up a phone and called after a few months. He is responsible and should serve time. Full sentence? IDK. But he should serve time.




I bet you tip at the DMV too.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 6:00 pm to
He gets regular shippings on amazon prime items, he's just that kind of guy
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 6:00 pm to
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How many other prisoners would lead successful lives if they got the same opportunity? That's a slippery slope you don't want to set any semblance of a precedent for.


I've got no problem setting the precedent that if the state fricks up, you're not responsible for their screw up.
Posted by Ellakennedi
Member since Aug 2012
665 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 6:14 pm to
Should be an extra year added to his sentence for not doing the right thing by turning himself in.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 6:19 pm to
Don't know if you're trolling or what...

But LOFL at you comparing a toll booth fine to 13 years in jail.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 6:21 pm to
At what year does the prisoner get to go free? And can you not see how that precedent could be used against the accused?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11291 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 6:27 pm to
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This is why the governor should commute the sentence. That is the best solution. It's obvious that this guy is not a threat to society and has his life in order. You do not want to set a precedent in case law where some rapist never has to go to prison because they forgot about him for a few years.



There are plenty of examples of ways the states mess ups can take someone off the hook for a penalty. I know that no one likes a criminal being free but if the state never executes the penalty they should lose the opportunity to. There are statutes of limitations for prosecution, there are rules on speedy trials, and there should 100% be rules regarding a timely execution of the penalty.


No one gets the warm fuzzies about a criminal walking but this isn't justice even if the guy is a schmuck.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:00 pm to
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I've got no problem setting the precedent that if the state fricks up, you're not responsible for their screw up.


People keep forgetting that the precedent had already been set. Albeit 102 years ago.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:17 pm to
We don't know anything about that case. Only that something similar happened.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27356 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:22 pm to
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FREE Cornealious

This. If he truly turned his life around in the manner they describe, he is rehabilitated. That is what prison is SUPPOSED to do, but instead it has become something else. It will be a tragedy if he is not released.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11291 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:30 pm to
A lot of people seem to want to split the difference and do punishments outside jail or with minimal time - other than "neither side makes me feel good" is there a good reason?

It's still blowing my mind that there's no cutoff on the time between sentencing and jail.... I know convicted criminals aren't a sympathetic group but absolutely ridiculous....
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84128 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:05 pm to
So you really think he should get zero punishment for a felony he was convicted for just because the state screwed up?

As I've said from the get go, prison is too much, but he should definitely have to pay his debt to society in some fashion IMO.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 8:05 pm
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11291 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:37 pm to
Yes. He should be only marked with a conviction at this point. Would you support a judges ability to suspend a sentence to an arbitrary time of their choosing? There is no excuse for him to not be done with this over a decade later (and his being a good guy means nothing in that opinion).


If the state doesn't process the order to jail within X time (say a year but I could see a valid argument for quicker than that but couldn't claim expertise in the logistics) - then clearly they do not take the conviction seriously. If society wanted to collect that debt, they should've acted in a timely manner.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 8:38 pm
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:37 pm to
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A lot of people seem to want to split the difference and do punishments outside jail or with minimal time - other than "neither side makes me feel good" is there a good reason?
I can't think of one. I don't like sending him to jail for 13 years and I don't letting him walk free. Middle ground for me.
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It's still blowing my mind that there's no cutoff on the time between sentencing and jail.... I know convicted criminals aren't a sympathetic group but absolutely ridiculous....
Agreed, but you can't write a law for every situation. I bet they address it ASAP.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16232 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:38 am to
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Don't know if you're trolling or what... But LOFL at you comparing a toll booth fine to 13 years in jail.



Not trolling but using a real life example of doing the right thing and taking responsibility for your actions. I guess I am just archaic in that way.

I need to get down with the new of of thinking. What is it? Screw errbody unless they catch me and then say sorry for partying bro. Does that sound better.

I prefer to show good character at all times. I had that instilled in me by my marine corps father. It helps me sleep better at night.
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