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re: Lerner emails to DOJ sought prosecution of tax exempt groups

Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:42 pm to
AL HUNTER, there is a link on the page you linked to where P.J. Media, shows the “ low level ” employees in Cincinnati, unloaded on their Washington superiors in an e-mail obtained via the FOI act by Judicial Watch.

Cindy Thomas wrote Lerner an email directly:

“ Joseph Grant and others who came to Cincinnati last year told the LOW LEVEL WORKERS ( low level workers involved too ?) in Cincinnati that no one would be “thrown under the bus.” Based on articles, Cincinnati wasn't publicly thrown under the bus, INSTEAD IT WAS HIT BY A MACK TRUCK.”

An e-mail from Lerner, now realizing that phones work better than e-mails goes like this.

“ I will be back shortly and will give you a call.”

So, now Cindy Thomas, head of the Cincinnati division, seems to be involved in the crimes against these 501 (c) 4s also, why else would she have had a discussion with Washington ( Grant ) higher ups about being thrown under the bus, unless she ( Thomas ) knew what she was doing was wrong ? HELLO !

As for Rex and his buddies, you are a disgace to this counntry and its laws. When it is a well known fact that up to 49 percent of any groups activity can be political, you don't try and go after anyone on perjury charges unless you are trying to 1. intimidate 2. get ahead of an I.G. criminal investigation.

Now we know that the DOJ was involed and a special prosecuter must be appointed.


Why does it take P.J. Media, Breitbart and simular groups to break these stories ? The main stream media have lost all sense of partiality. DAMN SHAME.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10433 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:47 pm to
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Is there a point in telling us Ms. Lerner was doing her job?


In an email to an aide responding to a request for information from a Washington Post reporter, Lerner admits that she “can’t confirm that there was anyone on the other side of the political spectrum” who had been targeted by the IRS. She then adds that “The one with the names used were only know [sic] because they have been very loud in the press.”

Lerner later acknowledged pursuing prosecutions of these groups would not fit well with the law.

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“These new emails show that the day before she broke the news of the IRS scandal, Lois Lerner was talking to a top Obama Justice Department official about whether the DOJ could prosecute the very same organizations that the IRS had already improperly targeted,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement. “The IRS emails show Eric Holder’s Department of Justice is now implicated and conflicted in the IRS scandal. No wonder we had to sue in federal court to get these documents.”


Is Rex now saying that someone else should now do their job and prosecute Lerner?
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10433 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:48 pm to
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So you are fine with rounding up illegal alliens I suppose?!


No one said that. These people are not American citizens. What he meant was there is not a problem with prosecuting American Citizens who break the law.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57842 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:51 pm to
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No one said that. These people are not American citizens. What he meant was there is not a problem with prosecuting American Citizens who break the law.



So as an American citizen he isn't concerned about all law breakers but only particular ones and you apparently want to defend his stand?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123782 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:55 pm to
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Don't see a problem with prosecuting a group that is breaking the law.
That is EXACTLY the argument of a bigot cop who racially profiles, then surprisingly ends up with 100% of his arrests against Black Americans. "I don't see a problem with prosecuting people breaking the law."

Just pathetic!
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78922 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:00 pm to
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As for Rex and his buddies, you are a disgace to this counntry and its laws. When it is a well known fact that up to 49 percent of any groups activity can be political,


It will be a riot once the shoe is on the other foot
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79617 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:14 pm to
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No one said that. These people are not American citizens. What he meant was there is not a problem with prosecuting American Citizens who break the law.


Wow.

That is incredibly weak.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:21 pm to
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What he meant was there is not a problem with prosecuting American Citizens who break the law.


The implication being that it's okay during a political election campaign cycle to only chase those that oppose the current administration as opposed to using a framework that doesn't violate civil rights through silencing political opposition.

Sounds like they are totally cool with the civil rights violations.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10433 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:31 pm to
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So as an American citizen he isn't concerned about all law breakers but only particular ones and you apparently want to defend his stand?


You need to change the batteries in your sarcasm detector.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:16 pm to
Put her in jail. Jail her with a same sex liberal revenue collector with rape tendencies. Wrongfully arrest her. Use extreme torture and law enforcement brutally against her.

Then, let her out.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:18 pm to
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Rex



troll
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:44 pm to
Probably going to be taken out of DOJ hands now and given to Special Prosecutor.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:02 pm to
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Now we know that the DOJ was involed and a special prosecuter must be appointed.



Unfortunately, only one man can appoint a Special Prosecutor. And Eric has no such plans, I'm sure.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56380 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:16 pm to
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Probably going to be taken out of DOJ hands now and given to Special Prosecutor.



Who makes this call?

Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:26 pm to
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quote:
Probably going to be taken out of DOJ hands now and given to Special Prosecutor.



Who makes this call?


Can't be done. Only the AG can make the decision to name a special prrosecutor, and he is also the one who names the SP, and makes all the decisions as far what parameters the SP operates within.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56380 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:29 pm to
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Can't be done. Only the AG can make the decision to name a special prrosecutor, and he is also the one who names the SP, and makes all the decisions as far what parameters the SP operates within.



Yeah, my question was rhetorical.

The point is that Holder can just refuse to act, like he has already. Does anyone thing he would do anything other than that?
Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
1752 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:29 pm to
Well logic would say that if you are implicated in the crime that you would not get to decide who is going to be the SP.

But if that is the case then they have known this all along and really don't give 2 rats asses what the R's have on them.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:38 pm to
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Well logic would say that if you are implicated in the crime that you would not get to decide who is going to be the SP.



The AG can recuse himself from this decision and have it made by the Deputy AG, as was done by Ashcroft in 2003 in the Valerie Plume case, but we know he won't do that.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:50 pm to
So they have broken the law, and there is no recourse?

holy chit
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123782 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 5:01 pm to
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The AG can recuse himself from this decision and have it made by the Deputy AG, as was done by Ashcroft in 2003 in the Valerie Plume case, but we know he won't do that.

Certainly makes Ashcroft's decision to do the right thing appear painfully naïve, doesn't it?
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