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Lerner emails to DOJ sought prosecution of tax exempt groups
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:17 pm
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Katie Pavlich reports that newly released IRS emails prove that former IRS honcho Lois Lerner contacted the U.S. Department of Justice about prosecuting some tax exempt groups in May 2013. The emails have been released per a Judicial Watch FOIA.
Lerner wrote the email shortly before an inspector general’s report would make the IRS abuse of conservative groups public. Lerner got ahead of that by apologizing for the abuse via a planted question in a conference call with the American Bar Association.
Lerner emailed the IRS commissioner’s office about the DOJ on May 8, 2013 — just two days before she disclosed the abuse scandal — asking DOJ whether groups could be criminally prosecuted for “lying” on their tax exempt request forms.
“I got a call today from Richard Pilger Director Elections Crimes Branch at DOJ,” Lerner wrote on May 8 to Nikole Flax, chief of staff to former IRS Commissioner Steven Miller. “He wanted to know who at IRS the DOJ folk s [sic] could talk to about Sen. Whitehouse idea at the hearing that DOJ could piece together false statement cases about applicants who “lied” on their 1024s –saying they weren’t planning on doing political activity, and then turning around and making large visible political expenditures. DOJ is feeling like it needs to respond, but want to talk to the right folks at IRS to see whether there are impediments from our side and what, if any damage this might do to IRS programs. I told him that sounded like we might need several folks from IRS.”
Flax responded in email: ”I think we should do it – also need to include CI [Criminal Investigation Division], which we can help coordinate. Also, we need to reach out to FEC. Does it make sense to consider including them in this or keep it separate?”
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:22 pm to Alahunter
Not a smidgen of corruption.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:22 pm to Alahunter
Is there a point in telling us Ms. Lerner was doing her job?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:24 pm to Alahunter
quote:Ooops......not a smidgen of corruption.
We now have a sitting Democrat congressman, Elijah Cummings, a sitting Democrat senator, Sheldon Whitehouse, the Federal Elections Commission, the U.S. Department of Justice, and the Internal Revenue Service all implicated in the scandal. Flax’s involvement puts the abuse squarely into the IRS commissioner’s office. But it takes an entity above all of those agencies to coordinate their actions. That entity can only be the White House.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:29 pm to Alahunter
Don't see a problem with prosecuting a group that is breaking the law.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:31 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Don't see a problem with prosecuting a group that is breaking the law.
Subject to a vast amount of discretion though, right? The IRS also seems to have a vast amount of discretion.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:31 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Lerner wrote the email shortly before an inspector general’s report would make the IRS abuse of conservative groups public. Lerner got ahead of that by apologizing for the abuse via a planted question in a conference call with the American Bar Association.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:36 pm to Rex
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Is there a point in telling us Ms. Lerner was doing her job?
In an email to an aide responding to a request for information from a Washington Post reporter, Lerner admits that she “can’t confirm that there was anyone on the other side of the political spectrum” who had been targeted by the IRS. She then adds that “The one with the names used were only know [sic] because they have been very loud in the press.”
Lerner later acknowledged pursuing prosecutions of these groups would not fit well with the law.
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“These new emails show that the day before she broke the news of the IRS scandal, Lois Lerner was talking to a top Obama Justice Department official about whether the DOJ could prosecute the very same organizations that the IRS had already improperly targeted,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement. “The IRS emails show Eric Holder’s Department of Justice is now implicated and conflicted in the IRS scandal. No wonder we had to sue in federal court to get these documents.”
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:43 pm to Alahunter
Wow, pure corruption across all agencies.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:43 pm to Rex
Is there a point in you figuring out why "lied" is in quotation marks? Might strain your limited cognitive resources but you should still give it a shot.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:44 pm to CptBengal
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“I got a call today from Richard Pilger Director Elections Crimes Branch at DOJ,” Lerner wrote on May 8
So the DOJ actually set this in motion. Interesting that.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:46 pm to Alahunter
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In an email to an aide responding to a request for information from a Washington Post reporter, Lerner admits that she “can’t confirm that there was anyone on the other side of the political spectrum” who had been targeted by the IRS. She then adds that “The one with the names used were only know [sic] because they have been very loud in the press.”
As Rex said, Ms. Lerner was only doing her job.
It's just that in THIS particular administration, part of her job entails breaking the law.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:48 pm to Alahunter
This happened so long ago, What difference does it make!
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:55 pm to NbamaTiger90
oh and I love how that TPOS Cummings said that the DOJ is investigating...So no need for congress.
pathetic.
pathetic.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:56 pm to Alahunter
The shite is getting so deep a snorkel or scuba tank is needed to breathe air. Her bogus claim of the Fifth is some of the finest grade of Bull shite ever to fall out of a bovine animals arse. Growing funny mushrooms should be very easy to do.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:59 pm to CptBengal
Sad thing is that nothing will happen to any of them.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:08 pm to NbamaTiger90
If Lerner was just involved in the approval/denial process of the these tax exemptions, how did she know if they were lying? Secondly, instead of having the DOJ investigate why not just deny their application? It seems to me she had an agenda.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:11 pm to dante
Any free thinker knows she had an agenda. They also know it came from the HMIC.
The HMIC just has his middle finger in the air saying, I dare you to do something.
The HMIC just has his middle finger in the air saying, I dare you to do something.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:17 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Don't see a problem with prosecuting a group that is breaking the law.
So you are fine with rounding up illegal alliens I suppose?!
Let's get this on the record so if this happens, you guys will be fine with it. Both you and Rex have no problem with the IRS being used by either party to target it's opposition?
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:34 pm to Rex
Did her job description give her discretion to treat taxpayers differently depending on their political affiliations? She admitted certain groups were targeted inappropriately by the IRS. Absent evidence to the contrary, it is safe to presume the focus of the DOJ inquiries were the same taxpayers as those being targeted inappropriately by the IRS. Her job should have been to prevent this or to ensure all taxpayers were treated the same. That was her job, and it didn't require her to assist in the persecution of political opponents of the President and his party.
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