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re: Tensions rise in Nevada-snipers,1st am zones,no fly zones used and in effect
Posted on 4/10/14 at 5:56 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 4/10/14 at 5:56 pm to Alahunter
So basically the only similarities are the feds being involved. Or do you think the feds should have left David Koresh alone and ignored the child abuse in the compound
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 6:04 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
The similarities are an aggressive federal agency against a group of people who believe they have the moral high ground and don't look like they are going to back down. With more people who identify themselves as militia members arriving soon, are you unable to see how a potentially explosive standoff could form?
Posted on 4/10/14 at 6:26 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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do you think the feds should have left David Koresh alone and ignored the child abuse in the compound
I think they should have taken him into custody while he was alone, in town, days earlier when they were watching him. Instead of bringing in media for a "gun raid", then gassing some children to death, while burning the remaining children to death.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:24 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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So basically the only similarities are the feds being involved. Or do you think the feds should have left David Koresh alone and ignored the child abuse in the compound
Well, I guess killing the children is one way to stop them from being abused.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:47 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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So basically the only similarities are the feds being involved. Or do you think the feds should have left David Koresh alone and ignored the child abuse in the
Were the abuse allegations ever proven in court or were people executed over allegations? The local sheriff was in the process of negotiating a peaceful surrender when the feds stepped in and everything went to shite. Odd that the sniper doing the shooting was the same one that was at Ruby Ridge killing innocent victims. Good thing for these folks he's retired.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:31 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
[quote]So basically the only similarities are the feds being involved. Or do you think the feds should have left David Koresh alone and ignored the child abuse in the compound[/quote
That's how I do it. I burn the kids and all to protect the kids from child abuse.
That's how I do it. I burn the kids and all to protect the kids from child abuse.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 8:05 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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Or do you think the feds should have left David Koresh alone and ignored the child abuse in the compound
Not a federal crime. That's a state crime. And the McLennan County Sheriff's Office could have picked up Koresh any morning on his daily jog, had they had enough evidence to arrest him.
Which they never could get, because in any cult-type situation (such as Jeffs group), victims are conditioned not to speak out against the cult or face losing all contact with family and friends.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:03 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:Are you saying the kids were better off with Federal involvement? I laugh at thee, and cry for the dead kids.
Or do you think the feds should have left David Koresh alone and ignored the child abuse in the compound
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:09 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:The Feds could have arrested David Koresh any number of times when he traveled away from the compound.
So basically the only similarities are the feds being involved. Or do you think the feds should have left David Koresh alone and ignored the child abuse in the compound
Branch Davidian was 100% avoidable.
So was this.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:09 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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So basically the only similarities are the feds being involved. Or do you think the feds should have left David Koresh alone and ignored the child abuse in the compound
This is bull$hit propoganda right there - Child welfare services didn't raid Waco - the ATF did - and why? Because they thought they had too many guns. If the government wanted to build a case against them, they should have followed due process and done so - they were too chicken$hit to serve a warrant by knocking on the door like in a civilized society. But, it was much more exciting and macho to trot out the ATF SWAT team.
And Koresh didn't resist law enforcement when he was brought in on the child abuse charges, which he originally beat - they threw that out to demonize him during the standoff.
Now - I'm in the position of having to defend the actions of a crazy man - but how crazy was he? He kept preaching to his followers that the government was going to bring down an apocalypse around them, and by G-d he turned out to be correct.
(Those people were targeted because there were creepy religious people with guns.)
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