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re: Constraints on the aferlife
Posted on 4/10/14 at 12:03 am to Doc Fenton
Posted on 4/10/14 at 12:03 am to Doc Fenton
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frick it. You asked a serious question so I will give you a serious start of an answer.
Thanks for taking it seriously.
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You're sort of missing the point here. People believe in an afterlife because the very existence of your own subjective experience is clear evidence that there is more than physical laws involved in the operation of the universe.
You can get bogged down arguing about the definition of nature, but whatever you call it, your subjective experience is ruled by laws that are simply not observable. I think this is Roger Penrose's position on the matter fwiw.
Thus, there is evidence for an afterlife, which even the ancient philosophers like Socrates and Aristotle acknowledged,
The fact humans have subjective experience isn't evidence of an aferlife. That's an absurd argument.
We have subjective experience...therefore there is an aferlife.
Come on man!
This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 12:05 am
Posted on 4/10/14 at 12:10 am to SpidermanTUba
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The fact humans have subjective experience isn't evidence of an aferlife.
It very clearly IS evidence.
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That's an absurd argument.
evidence =/= argument
It's not the full argument of course, but it is generally accepted as the basic starting point.
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We have subjective experience...therefore there is an aferlife.
There is a chain of arguments here that I'm leaving out, and in any case, it's not possible to prove them with purely rational analysis, which is fine because rationality is just an abstract category that we create to model the truth, and as I'm sure you realize, all models are inaccurate.
In other words, no matter how you slice it, the full argument will always involve emotion and motivation. There's no way to get around that.
Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:44 am to SpidermanTUba
Tell us the truth..... Are you a Brony?
Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:15 am to SpidermanTUba
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aferlife
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isn't evidence of an aferlife
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therefore there is an aferlife
I can't have a serious discussion with someone who can't even spell the subject.
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