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Posted by TunaTime
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:47 pm to
I was just wondering if people thought PM's were dumbasses too like the engineers. Or if they are more "respected" by the field guys.
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:49 pm to
this thread is starting to go round and round
Posted by HardHat
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:57 pm to
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I was just wondering if people thought PM's were dumbasses too like the engineers. Or if they are more "respected" by the field guys


Every PM I worked for I've had respect for. So in my case, yes they are respected.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

I was just wondering if people thought PM's were dumbasses too like the engineers. Or if they are more "respected" by the field guys.



PMs have everyones respect bro. It's a tough job that is directly related to the success of the project
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 9:01 pm
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

I was just wondering if people thought PM's were dumbasses too like the engineers. Or if they are more "respected" by the field guys.


You gotta have a handle on pretty much everything to be a PM. Those dudes know their shite. Any good PM will have a good balance of field, design, cost, and schedule mindset.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

I was just wondering if people thought PM's were dumbasses too like the engineers. Or if they are more "respected" by the field guys. 


I was told by an old timer that the first thing that an engineer does when getting PM, is get castrated. They essentially become "yes" men to their supervisors and clients. There is no such thing as "that wont work" or "we cant do it in that time frame" to a PM. they say yes and then push their guys to get it done. Thats Managing 101. Its the nature of the beast that some PMs write checks that their guys cant cash. In my experience, most of the time its the client and their expectations/experience/etc that makes a PM look bad. Good clients know that when engineering is pushed, the field catches hell.
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