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re: Is it impossible to travel to another solar system?

Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:39 am to
Posted by notsince98
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:39 am to
According to special relativity, time stops at the speed of light. It may take millions of years to travel somewhere at the speed of light but it would be of no consequence to you other than you wouldn't be able to return to Earth for millions of Earth years.

Even with that, that assumes a brute force propulsion as the only form of space travel. With the alien activity that has been present on this planet for thousands of years, there is obviously a solution to this problem and it is probably a more elegant design than just pushing an object to the speed of light.
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Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:43 am to
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With the alien activity that has been present on this planet for thousands of years,
Posted by Mahootney
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:07 am to
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Even with that, that assumes a brute force propulsion as the only form of space travel. With the alien activity that has been present on this planet for thousands of years, there is obviously a solution to this problem and it is probably a more elegant design than just pushing an object to the speed of light.
I postulate that we don't fully understand energy physics.
We're still discovering matter/anti-matter relationships. We're barely touching on quantum particles like the Higgs-Boson, and there are other areas of energy physics that we aren't even exploring.
Think about it.... we've only really been serious about this whole energy adventure for ~200 years.

The basis of my hypothesis is the inability to adequately rectify the differences between macro and quantum physics. I believe it's because we have incomplete or flawed fundamental equations.

We've convinced ourselves that we've got it right, and therefore aren't able to progress in any other direction than the one we're currently following.

What makes Einstein right? He was just a man... not a god. He capitalized on others' reasearch, but who is to say that he fully understood it... or that he didn't miss vital components when crafting his theory.

Einstein proposes C as a limit, but really... it is a constant (which was actually proposed by maxwell as the conversion factor between electrostatic and electromagnetic fields).
Einstein used Maxwell's research as a basis for relativity, but he may have misunderstood or failed to fully value the concept of C. He correctly extrapolated the speed of transverse waves, but completely ignored the electrostatic component of Maxwell's research (which is 1/2 of the whole puzzle).

To further prove that the speed of light is not the final limit of directional travel [(v=pi/2*c) scalar wave travel = 292,830 miles/sec.... vs transverse (aka the speed of light) = 186,282 miles/sec], you can look into Nikola Tesla's work regarding using high-frequency, high-voltage, harmonic, longitudinal waves and earth as a dielectric, which experimentally proved wave propogation faster than C. (Tesla's experimental work uncovered several phenomenon, which at the time were unexplainable. Later, the discovery of the earth's ionosphere and the realization that earth is an insulated body vindicated the research.)

As such, Einstein is neglecting the electro-static components in his mathmatics, which on the macro scale is negiligible. However, the miscalculations regarding momentum of the electromagnetic field (and presumption that it's only mass that has an effect on speed/energy... and that C is a limit rather than a constant) prevent the theories from being transferred to the quantum scale.... and therefore limiting/delaying our advancement.


PS: There are several theories about cosmic energy generation that intrigue me.
One theory is that the sun is not visible in outer space. The implications are tremendous. It would mean that the energy we see here on earth is actually in a degraded state from its pure form.
Could we develop means of transportation from the higher, pure energy available in the black body of space?
Is the sun really a fusion generator? ... Or is it more like an energy transformer?

As soon as you believe that you are smart enough to have it all figured out, you eliminate the possibility of discovery outside of your focused perspective (B/c you eliminate other options with your own prejudices).


One of the main reasons that an Einstein-Rosen bridge is considered impossible is due to the energy requirement to maintain the worm hole through space time.
What if the energy requirement calculations are incorrect or that our understanding of energy quantity/availability are incorrect?
-- The possibility of instantaneous space-time travel would become possible.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:20 am to
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there is obviously a solution to this problem and it is probably a more elegant design than just pushing an object to the speed of light.


Instead of pushing... try pulling.
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