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re: Until they can beat, the San Antonio Spurs, in the Western Conference Playoffs
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:41 am to WestCoastAg
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:41 am to WestCoastAg
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2002? Yea game 6 is shady but
Mmmhmmm
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just like they would like to see a Kobe/lebron final. I wonder why they didn't force that matchup if they do it so often
That's not what I'm saying. Even the league can't make a terrible team like y'all good enough to play for it all.
The point is when it is close, and there is a questionable call, it typically goes y'all's way. Nearly every playoff team has grievances against y'all for horrible officiating. But from y'all, it's "oh no, they just blew it." You're the only one who can't detect a pattern because they purple and gold shades are on
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:41 am to cascadia
quote:and I'm not sure how much of this I believe
Wasn't there a ref who came out and said some of the games were staged and betted on? Another (or the same) said they hated AI and tried their best to make him lose?
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then it is highly likely that Stern would ensure LA wins some championships
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what is Lebron's record when joey Crawford is officiating?
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:42 am to Pedro
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I can tell you're having fun with this. Not too sure about him yet.
Like he said, this ain't our first rodeo
His girl is a Spurs fan. My dad's a Laker fan. Our talking points are refined as hell by the time we get on here
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:44 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:so explain 2009 and 2010
Even the league can't make a terrible team like y'all good enough to play for it all
quote:this could be said about any playoff series. I'm not saying we aren't beneficiary of bad calls, but to actually say the league has an agenda behind those calls and its "the lakers must win" is just paranoid bullshite
Nearly every playoff team has grievances against y'all for horrible officiating
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:49 am to WestCoastAg
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so explain 2009 and 2010
When y'all won? Nothing to explain. Y'all weren't terrible
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this could be said about any playoff series.
Not really.
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I'm not saying we aren't beneficiary of bad calls, but to actually say the league has an agenda behind those calls and its "the lakers must win" is just paranoid bullshite
It's not paranoid to observe that y'all tend to benefit from questionable calls in close games more than most franchises.
And, honestly, if I were you, I'd embrace the frick out of that. I don't care if my teams win by hook or by crook, tbh.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:50 am to WestCoastAg
Yeah the Kings had a few bad games. The Lakers did too. I'm not debating who shot more free throws. The Lakers got the KEY calls that dictated the series. Specifically Game 6.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:52 am to TbirdSpur2010
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It's not paranoid to observe that y'all tend to benefit from questionable calls in close games more than most franchises.
When fans of 29 of the other NBA teams make these same exact claims, they're probably (they are) right. It'd be one thing if it was just a Spurs fan and a Celtics fan, etc, but it's seriously fans of every single team in the NBA.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:57 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:no. Both of those years we were #1 and the cavs were. If the league intentionaly gets teams through, why the frick did they not set up a Kobe/lebron final?
When y'all won? Nothing to explain. Y'all weren't terrible
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It's not paranoid to observe that y'all tend to benefit from questionable calls in close games more than most franchises.
Its paranoid to say that's why we actually win. I'm not saying its paranoid to observe we've gotten calls, I'm saying its paranoid to take those as "the only reason why the lakers win is because the league makes sure they do"
quote:really? You would embrace the notion that you have cheated to get where you are even when its a ridiculous notion
And, honestly, if I were you, I'd embrace the frick out of that. I don't care if my teams win by hook or by crook, tbh
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:57 am to theducks
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When fans of 29 of the other NBA teams make these same exact claims, they're probably (they are) right. It'd be one thing if it was just a Spurs fan and a Celtics fan, etc, but it's seriously fans of every single team in the NBA.
I mean, honestly
Spurs have played multiple playoff series' against a variety of opponents. We've had calls go our way and for our opponents in critical moments against every single one of them except the lakers. In order to beat them when they're good, you better blow them the frick out or win on a buzzer beater, because you're not getting the benefit of the doubt more often than not.
And that's just a fact--they're the league's flagship franchise. As a Cowboys fan, damn straight the NFL has favored us with scheduling and calls in close games, I'll freely admit. That's what happens when you're the golden child.
Just makes it that much more fun when teams like the lakers get beat and/or struggle
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:58 am to theducks
Once again, I've never said we've benefitted from calls, but to go the next step and say that those calls are the only reason why we won and that the league will do anything it can for us to win is stupid
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:02 am to WestCoastAg
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Both of those years we were #1 and the cavs were. If the league intentionaly gets teams through, why the frick did they not set up a Kobe/lebron final?
The Cavs were never good enough to get through, even in the terrible East.
And the one time they did get through, they ran into SA.
And we're talking about the league favoring the lakers as a franchise. The Cavs will NEVER get the benefit of the doubt, I don't care who's playing for them
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Its paranoid to say that's why we actually win. I'm not saying its paranoid to observe we've gotten calls, I'm saying its paranoid to take those as "the only reason why the lakers win is because the league makes sure they do"
Hold up--I'm not saying that's the only reason why y'all have won. I'll admit y'all have had some damn good teams over the years. Y'all have competed for and won titles in the West--I'm not saying y'all weren't good.
What I AM saying is that in critical situations, judgment calls tend to go y'all's way. Yeah, there's other stuff that goes into winning--not saying that's the only reason. But you can't deny that the officials have a huge impact in a game of runs and momentum like basketball, and being able to count on the benefit of the doubt more often than not is a choice advantage to have.
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really? You would embrace the notion that you have cheated to get where you are
What the frick did I JUST say? By hook, or by crook. People can cry all they want when you're holding Larry or Vince, but they can't take it away from you.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:03 am to WestCoastAg
You seem to not fully understanding me. I fully agree we get calls more so than other franchises. I got that, I'm talking about how, the league doesn't look at us and go "oh theyre the Lakers, we better make sure they win and well do anything to make it happen" cause that's just dumb
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 1:04 am
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:03 am to WestCoastAg
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Once again, I've never said we've benefitted from calls, but to go the next step and say that those calls are the only reason why we won
Not what I said.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:03 am to TbirdSpur2010
You said that about 2008, the Oregon fan sure as shite implied it
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:05 am to WestCoastAg
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I fully agree we get calls more so than other franchises.
That's the only point I was endeavoring to make.
And you know what? Even so, you have to be good enough to capitalize on such a situation, and during y'all's hale and hearty years, y'all were more than good enough
The officials aren't the only reason y'all won, but having them favor you in those tight spots can often influence winning a title or coming up just short.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:06 am to WestCoastAg
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Once again, I've never said we've benefitted from calls, but to go the next step and say that those calls are the only reason why we won and that the league will do anything it can for us to win is stupid
in some years, it definitely turned the tide of a series in the lakers' favor. He's strictly stating the mere fact that when it comes to a close game, close calls goes towards the lakers majority of the times.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:06 am to WestCoastAg
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You said that about 2008
No, I said that that call was the reason y'all won that pivotal game of the series.
I didn't say that was the only reason y'all won, or that that was why y'all won a title.
Yeah, I covered my black arse. I know who I'm talking to
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:07 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:07 am to WestCoastAg
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You said that about 2008, the Oregon fan sure as shite implied it about the series with the Kings.
FIFY.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:09 am to theducks
quote:were you not the one that went on about 2000 and 2010? Anyway 2002 is stupid when the kings literally had a 24 pt lead in game 4 and a game 7 at home. Sorry but the kings blew it
the Oregon fan sure as shite implied it about the series with the Kings
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