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re: My feeling on capitalism
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:37 am to Tackle74
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:37 am to Tackle74
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Fact is the United States became the greatest economy the world has ever seen while facing more regulation then it had in the 19th Century.
You're trying to claim that those regulation were what caused the booming economy and not the fact that the United States had the only intact industrial base in the world after WWII.
The economy succeeded inspite of those regulations not because of them.
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:48 am to SettleDown
quote:
Think about it and list the ten WORST THINGS you can think of that private entities have done in this world. The WORST. Go for it.
1. The war on women
2. 1%ers
3. Global warming
4. Many plots to destroy the world in movies and television
5. Resistance to unions
6. Financial collapse caused by greedy Wall Street
7. Lack of a living wage
8. Gun manufacture
9. New coke
10. Ann romney's horse
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:50 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:
My feeling on capitalism
In your first two words you give yourself away. Speaking based off of "your feelings" rather than your thoughts. No wonder you're so incredibly wrong so often.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:56 am to Tackle74
socialism is a very bad word.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:57 am to Tackle74
didn't know 6 and 7 day work weeks were outlawed?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:58 am to Tackle74
so we should outlaw all international business? WTH?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:10 am to olgoi khorkhoi
quote:This! Only the weak lament it.
Know how I know you're not good at anything?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:15 am to Libertyabides71
quote:Lets be honest. The greatest source of massive greed in this country comes from those that want to take money from "the rich" and give it "the poor "(themselves). Nothing could possibly be more greedy than coveting your neighbor's wealth simply because he has more than you.
The worst greed of all is Government greed.
It isn't fair. It's greed and envy. And it's not a virtue. Not symptom of a healthy culture.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:22 am to constant cough
quote:This. Businesses aren't flocking to China, VN, etc in search of greater regulation.
The economy succeeded inspite of those regulations not because of them.
Money flows toward freedom like water flows downhill.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:22 am to Taxing Authority
Hence Political incentive.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:46 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
quote:
My feeling on capitalism
quote:
So I feel about capitalism
I posit that a big problem is people acting on "feelings" rather than thoughts.
Just my thoughts on your feelings
2nded
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:10 am to JazzyJeff
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That produces massive inequality, unbridled greed, corporatism, war, waste, pollution...
Sorry bra...massive fail on your part.
No, you failed, brochacho. It's fed more mouths, clothed more people, and housed more people than all of the government on Earth COMBINED.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:26 am to JazzyJeff
quote:Explain yourself! Explain how capitalism produced those things.
That produces massive inequality, unbridled greed, corporatism, war, waste, pollution...
No "massive inequality" under feudalism, despotism or communism I guess. Really?
"unbridled greed" - please! Greed existed long before capitalism or any market/economic system. It existed when humans were still living in caves gather food for themselves.
"Corporatism" - irony much? Corporatism is the alternative to Capitalism you and you ilk have foisted upon us all.
"war, waste, pollution" - Yea, no war, waste, or pollution in Eden, but we don't live in Eden do we.
Sorry bra...massive fail on your part.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:30 am to Tackle74
quote:Government regulation didn't fix those things.
Now that is funny, child labor, unsafe working conditions, six or seven day work weeks, hell yeah lets head back to that.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:36 am to Tackle74
quote:Government greed for taxes forced this to happen.
Did Government greed move jobs overseas to increase profit margin?
quote:Government regulation on emissions and other manufacturing policies, labor laws, healthcare mandates etc, cause firms to cut corner anywhere they can to make a profit. If they don't make profits we will all be back to walking everywhere, which is probably what you would prefer.
Does Government greed put unsafe vehicles on the road to save a buck (GM, Toyota, Ford).
quote:People chose to do that, It's part of freedom.
Did Government greed put 8 year olds into Coal Mines to work in the past.
quote:Who decides what's safe? I demand the FREEDOM to decide what is safe for me and my family.
Society is on a balance, freedom and safety. A truly just society is balanced between those things.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:37 am to UncleFestersLegs
quote:Thank you!
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:39 am to SpidermanTUba
Why did everyone down vote the OP? The concept of Imperfectability is a cornerstone of both Conservative and Libertarian economic theory. Capitalism DOES suck, in so much as the human condition sucks, and it is the best system amongst many more flawed ones. I up voted.
*spell my name on the check right this time, Spidey.
*spell my name on the check right this time, Spidey.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:38 pm to Lsupimp
I think it's funny as hell when people ask if we would like to go back to the 19th century when working conditions were bad as if they were not bad in the 18th century and before all the way back in recorded human history.
The industrial revolution was a transitional phase. Child labor. Guess what? Children had ALWAYS worked. Poverty. Guess what? Before the industrial revolution EVERYONE was poor. Even kings had to piss in a pot and toss it out the window.
The average world wealth per person in 1000 BCE was about 150 dollars per person. It did not exceed 200 per year by 1750. So if you factor in at least 100,000 years of human history it took 97,000 years to go from 100 per person to 150 per person and then another 2750 years to get to 200 per person. Today its 6600 per person. So I wonder what strange idea it was around that time that caused wealth to escalate so quickly?
The industrial revolution was a transitional phase. Child labor. Guess what? Children had ALWAYS worked. Poverty. Guess what? Before the industrial revolution EVERYONE was poor. Even kings had to piss in a pot and toss it out the window.
The average world wealth per person in 1000 BCE was about 150 dollars per person. It did not exceed 200 per year by 1750. So if you factor in at least 100,000 years of human history it took 97,000 years to go from 100 per person to 150 per person and then another 2750 years to get to 200 per person. Today its 6600 per person. So I wonder what strange idea it was around that time that caused wealth to escalate so quickly?
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