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Would you save a dying kid?

Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:08 pm
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10309 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:08 pm
Chimerix caves into to social media and gives child experimental medicine for free.

Pharmaceutical company has meds that would save a child's life. Only problem is they're experimental and not covered by insurance, thus the price is too expensive for kid's family. Company caves in to social media outcry and gives experimental meds to kid for free.

What precedent does this set? What about the people who need this medicine, but don't have a viral video?


If the social media felt so strongly about it, they should have donated to the family so they could buy the medicine like anyone else.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:11 pm to
shite happens
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39606 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:11 pm to
Ya, bad situation.

I do find it odd they didn't give it for free at the onset since it is "experimental" and would give them great data I would think.

But I don't know the first thing that goes into those types of decisions.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:12 pm to
Yes to the question in the title.

WTF to the rest of your post.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78967 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:15 pm to
Posted this on the PT the other day:

1."What if a neighbor (with modest income and no real savings) has a sick child who needs $50,000 for surgery, and the neighbor knows that I have cash in my safe at home? Would it be OK for him to rob me at gunpoint, taking my money because it’s to save a child?"

2. "What if the neighbor takes a vote of the people living on the block and 51% of them say that I have to give him the money? Would it then be acceptable, moral, or anything other than criminal, for the neighbor to come to my house and demand that I hand over the cash?"

3."What if 95 percent of my neighbors say so?"

4."is it OK for those very same people to elect a politician to do the very same thing? Is theft more palatable with a middle-man?"

5.If not, then why is it OK for a United States Senator to take my earnings and give them to someone who “needs” the money more than she believes I do, with a similar threat of violence or prison against me if I refuse to comply?
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

If the social media felt so strongly about it, they should have donated to the family so they could buy the medicine like anyone else.


Dick! I sure there would have been A LOT of people that donated if the company didn't give the kid the meds.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171071 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:36 pm to
and if this experimental drug kills the kid, will the Facebook activists pay the civil damages?
Posted by Dorothy
Munchkinland
Member since Oct 2008
18153 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:38 pm to
This is a touchy subject, but from what I gathered from this particular case linked in the article, it wasn't really about a drug being available for the right amount of $ (or if insurance covered it). They were petitioning for "compassionate use" of a drug on a child not covered in the FDA adult clinical trials, and the small biomedical company which is running the trials no longer releases its meds in compassionate use cases because it is focussing its resources on trying to get the drug approved.

FDA also seemed to cave to the social media pressure, and gave immediate approval to the company for a new clinical trial of the drug on kids, so he could get the drug. The company won some by the FDA cutting the red tape to allow them to do this.

As to the ethical question, yes, if it were my kid I would do anything possible to try and get him what was needed to save HIS life, and screw everyone else. But in the larger picture, ethically, I don't think it's fair that one person gets a treatment if it means possible delays for everyone else.

I can kind of understand the drug companies' stances on not releasing experimental meds, as it might screw up their chances for getting something approved by the FDA (although I'm not sure how bad results of usage outside a clinical trial might affect that process). It also means they have to use more of their possibly limited supply of a drug which might delay the release of the drug to the public.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Ironbat31
Member since Jul 2013
805 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 2:25 pm to
what about poor kids around the world that need it
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

If the social media felt so strongly about it, they should have donated to the family so they could buy the medicine like anyone else.

Because they couldn't but the experimental drugs even if they had money. This was pressure for the company to ok a compassionate use exemption, which it previously refused.

FDA issues aside, why do people have an issue with people exerting pressure on a company?
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12398 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 2:32 pm to
The problems associated with allowing the compassionate usage causes difficult decisions for small pharma companies.. This drug will likely make or break this company.. When compassionate usage is allowed, the results are usually included in the results and that could be a bad thing for the company.. These are people who are dying and compromised health wise. The drug may work but not for these candidates under these circumstances.. Its a tough call and the companies reversal is fine by me but so was their original decision.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19713 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 2:40 pm to
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If the social media felt so strongly about it, they should have donated to the family so they could buy the medicine like anyone else.



If memory serves they did raise money, company still refused.
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