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Pam and Jim

Posted on 3/21/14 at 2:42 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21125 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 2:42 pm
Watching the first two seasons and she treats Jim pretty bad. She uses him as her office boyfriend and whines about Roy and then gets so excited when he, in a drunken stupor on the Booze Cruise, finally decides to set a date. Why isn't Jim sick of this? Then, he breaks up with Amy Adams, the cheerleader/purse lady, because he is upset about Pam?

I like Pam. She's cute with a good sense of humor. But, she is jerking Jim around and the second time around on this series I am seeing it all in a different light.

There. I said it.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70489 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 2:51 pm to
Pam was always a pretty shitty person, but got a pass on it for a long time.
Posted by kmcmah1
Member since Mar 2009
1074 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 2:54 pm to
Pam sucks. I've hated her for a long time on The Office. She just seems so damn boring.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11367 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Why isn't Jim sick of this?


Because he's a spineless beta who put Pam on a pedestal with his silly high school crush on her.

It always disgusted me...




...because I can relate.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15739 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:32 pm to
Its because Jim put Pam up on a pedestal. Once you put a girl up there she will always look down on you.

But I think the reason Jim breaks up with Amy Adams is that he knows shes way more into him than he is into her, and he doesn't want to lead her on or use her as a rebound because of it.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 4:00 pm to
The show jumped the shark when he dumped Rashida Jones for her. What an idiot.
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 4:01 pm to
I've known women like Pam -- beyond their cutesy facade is a manipulating count.
Posted by Special K
Member since Jun 2011
1102 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37355 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:23 pm to
Pam sucks. I don't care about her "cuteness". She used Jim early and manipulated Jim throughout.

Jim had his real shot to break away from her with Rashida Jones. They would have lived a long happy life and Jim could have been himself.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8079 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

Booze Cruise


Great episode.

"Dancing is tribal."

"Darryl, Darryl, Darryl"

"One of the globetrotters"

Dwight steering the ship. hahaha
This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 7:26 am to
My opinion of Jim and Pam: they were meant to be us; normal people living/working in a mundane ,strange work place. They tried liven things up by making fun of their co-workers, because hell, this was obviously just a pit stop to bigger and greater things. They were smarter, better looking, and my gosh, they were better people.

Except they weren't. In fact, they were probably the two biggest POS on the show. They were hypocritical elitist stuck in dead end jobs. Boo freaking hoo. If it wasn't for Michael, no one would care about your characters.
This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 7:31 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 8:49 pm to
I think Pam is disguised as likeable because she typifies the majority of women. She prioritizes security over happiness. But she had both at first. She friendzoned Jim big time, and why not? She has her emotional connection at work, and the big alpha male at home that will plow her and be her protector. Perfect situation. Even though Roy was emotionally limited as a boyfriend/potential husband, she was relatively assured that he would marry her, which is what pretty much every woman wants. And since Jim was there to supply that emotional security, all was well. Once Jim left for Stamford that changed her entire dynamic and left her powerless.

Maybe she broke up with Roy to get Jim to come back, or to change the relationship she had with Roy, or both. She clearly didn't shut the book on the Roy relationship, because they got back together again after Jim came back, as she tried to re-create what she had at the beginning of the series. But yeah, she's definitely manipulative, and wasn't something I caught on to until my third time watching the series.

I don't think she was a bad person though. She's just doing what most women in her situation would do. Jim let the situation be what it was because he put her on a pedestal.
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