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re: Wyoming welder faces $75K a day in EPA fines for building pond on his property.

Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27830 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:25 pm to
It's silly to come after a man a small pond. I'm having trouble thinking what the downstream affects could even be? Beavers disrupt creak flows every day. Should we exterminate them?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:34 pm to


LINK

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In the halls of Washington, D.C. and back in Alaska, politicians are looking into the actions of what they say is a heavy-handed Environmental Protection Agency. Gov. Sean Parnell announced Thursday he has selected Anchorage attorney Brent Cole to serve as a Special Counsel to investigate the August raids of the Alaska Environmental Crimes Task Force -- an EPA-led group of armed and armored officers that descended on the area to look for violations of the Clean Water Act.



This is how you lose the PR game.

This post was edited on 3/15/14 at 11:35 pm
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18681 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 12:27 am to
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It's silly to come after a man a small pond. I'm having trouble thinking what the downstream affects could even be? Beavers disrupt creak flows every day. Should we exterminate them?



The article doesn't say. I'm curious if he actually dammed up a navigable water body. Considering I make a living off of environmental permitting I fully understand how nonsensical many of these regulations are.

Surely there must be more to this case than the EPA simply wanting to pick on the little guy. I'd be interested in reading an unbiased report, but I admittedly don't feel like doing the research.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 8:22 am to
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It's silly to come after a man a small pond. I'm having trouble thinking what the downstream affects could even be? Beavers disrupt creak flows every day. Should we exterminate them?



Beavers are highly regulated.....they do build dams everywhere but those dams are also destroyed on a regular basis.


Did ya'll miss this...

"The EPA order on Jan. 30 gave Johnson 30 days to hire a consultant and have him or her assess the impact of the supposed unauthorized discharges. The report was also supposed to include a restoration proposal to be approved by the EPA as well as contain a schedule requiring all work be completed within 60 days of the plan's approval."


Dude us merely being asked to comply with federal regulations as would any landowner. His having a stste permit is admirable but there is a federal element that he should have been aware of. If he can make the case that the discharges in question do no negatively impact those downstream (how could they?) then the dam/pond is fine. If, however, he simply refuses to comply, he willbe subject to fines.


There is nothing in this report by Fox news to suggest that the EPA is gunning for this family and their ducks. They built a pond that required some oversite by the EPA. The EPA is demanding that this oversite be completed and if the outcome is neagative (not likely) that the dam/pond be returned to its natural state. Dude appears to be unwilling to do this, which is his perogative, but when the outcome is less than favorable why should anyone feel for him?
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