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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by tiger713
Houston
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Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:41 pm to
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Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (CNN) -- Investigators searching for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 have their "most promising" lead yet after a pinger locator detected signals consistent with those emitted by aircraft black boxes, the head of the Joint Agency Coordination Center said Monday.
But it could take days before officials can confirm whether the signals detected in the Indian Ocean were coming from the plane, Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston said.
"Nothing happens fast," the search official said.
Along with the hints that searchers may be getting close to the plane, a fresh mystery surfaced Sunday.
The aircraft skirted Indonesian airspace as it went off the grid and veered off course, a senior Malaysian government source told CNN.
The new analysis of the flight's path means the plane may have been taken along a route designed to avoid radar detection, the source said.
But why would someone steer the plane that way, and where is it now?.

Those are key questions that investigators are trying to answer -- and fast.
The HMS Echo, a British navy ship equipped with advanced detection gear, sailed into the area of the southern Indian Ocean on Monday morning (Sunday afternoon ET) where a Chinese crew had detected two audio signals.
And an Australian navy vessel carrying sophisticated U.S. listening technology is investigating a sound it picked up in a different patch of the ocean.
Investigators hope the signals could be locator beacons from the plane's data recorders, but they're not sure yet.
Time could be running out. It might be only a few hours or a few days before the pingers aboard the plane stop transmitting for good.
The batteries inside the beacons, which are designed to start sending signals when a plane crashes into water, last about 30 days after the devices are activated.
That 30th day has come -- though experts have said it's possible that they could last several days longer if they were at their full strength
Posted by tiger713
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
1101 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:42 pm to
its not 100% confirmed to be MA370, its just a very encouraging info/ hopeful sign on this "acoustic event"
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:06 am to
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its not 100% confirmed



Just 99.9%. This is it.
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 12:08 am
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29281 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:37 am to
Bump for morning crowd
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6763 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:54 am to
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Just 99.9%. This is it.


Oh yeah? Which one is it then? The Australians are picking up some noise in a different patch of the ocean. You should go work for the media.
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2014
2014 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:47 am to
published 6 minutes ago so I'm guessing it hasn't been posted here yet.. LINK
Posted by tiger713
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
1101 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:47 am to
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Yahoo.com Article- Possible signals from lost jet's black boxes heard

PERTH, Australia (AP) — Underwater sounds detected by a ship searching the southern Indian Ocean for the missing Malaysia Airlines jet are consistent with the pings from aircraft black boxes, an Australian official said Monday, dubbing it "a most promising lead" in the monthlong hunt for the vanished plane.

The Australian navy's Ocean Shield, which is carrying high-tech sound detectors from the U.S. Navy, picked up two separate signals late Saturday night and early Sunday morning within a remote patch of the Indian Ocean far off the west Australian coast that search crews have been crisscrossing for weeks. The first signal lasted two hours and 20 minutes before it was lost. The ship then turned around and picked up a signal again — this time recording two distinct "pinger returns" that lasted 13 minutes, Houston said.

The airliner's black boxes normally emit a frequency of 37.5 kilohertz, and the signals picked up by the Ocean Shield were both 33.3 kilohertz, said U.S. Navy Capt. Mark Matthews. But officials contacted the device's manufacturer and were told the frequency of black boxes can drift near the end of their shelf lives.

The Ocean Shield was slowly canvassing a small area trying to find the signal again, though that could take another day, Matthews said.

The ping locator is designed to detect signals at a range of 1.8 kilometers (1.12 miles), meaning it would need to be almost on top of the black boxes to detect them if they were on the ocean floor, which is about 4,500 meters (14,800 feet) deep.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67515 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:50 am to
This will probably turn out like all the other "breaking news"......sorry nothing here.
Posted by JAXTiger16
TBD
Member since Apr 2013
2228 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:35 am to
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its not 100% confirmed to be MA370, its just a very encouraging info/ hopeful sign on this "acoustic event"


MH370..

FIFY
Posted by JAXTiger16
TBD
Member since Apr 2013
2228 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:38 am to
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This will probably turn out like all the other "breaking news"......sorry nothing here.


sorry nothing here.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54235 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:56 am to
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"breaking news"


CNN has certainly put all their eggs in one basket with these two words. I guess they are hoping that at least one egg won't be broken if and when the plane is found.
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2014
2014 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:00 am to
I've been watching CNN pretty often since this thing went missing. They can't go a commercial break without saying, " Hi, so and so here on CNN and we bring to you some breaking news on the mystery of Flight 370" or "More breaking news that may be best lead yet on the mystery of Flight 370, when we return".
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69261 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:09 pm to
Update -- *** 4/8/2014




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No further pings from what may be the black box recorders of a missing Malaysia Airlines jet have been detected after a weekend of hopeful leads, as search teams "throw everything" into finding the aircraft before the black box batteries are expected to die, investigators have said.

The hunt for flight MH370, which disappeared from radar screens shortly after takeoff from Kuala Lumpur one month ago, has narrowed to about one-third of its original search size in an area of the southern Indian Ocean roughly 1,000 miles north-west of Perth, where the supposed pings were picked up over the weekend by an Australian vessel.

"We have at least several days of intense actions ahead of us," Australia's defence minister, David Johnston, said on Tuesday. "We're throwing everything at this difficult, complex task."

A US navy "pinger locator" on board Australia's Ocean Shield detected two signals on Sunday apparently consistent with black box locator pings, one for over two hours and the second for 13 minutes. Investigators described the signals as the best lead in the plane's hunt to date, which has been fraught with false leads and sightings of possible debris that later turned out to be unrelated to the missing aircraft.

But investigators are in a race against time as the batteries in the Boeing 777's black box beacons are already two days past their expected 30-day battery life. Although some batteries can continue on for longer, it is unknown just how much longer this aircraft's batteries might last.


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The search for MH370 is likely to go down as the most costly hunt in aviation history, with 26 countries deploying aircraft, submarines, vessels and satellites to the £26m investigation, according to Reuters. It is expected to cost at least twice as much as the search and recovery for Air France flight 447, which crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in 2009, the black boxes of which were only recovered two years later.


LINK

So the pings turned up empty so far.

This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80070 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:23 pm to
In 1986, they found a piston from a TBF Avenger and a leather aviator's boot in a tidal swamp off the coast of Florida, and were convinced they had found Flight 19. Turns out, the serial # on the piston didn't match any of the Avengers in Flight 19...in fact, it didn't match any TBF that had gone missing in Florida at all, ever.

Would be freaky if they recovered a black box and it turned out to NOT be from MH370, huh?
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69261 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:05 pm to
That would be crazy.

Here is a site, with a scale of the depth of the black box based on the pings the other day.

LINK
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:36 pm to
That sucker's never coming up.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56512 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:42 pm to
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I've been watching CNN pretty often since this thing went missing. They can't go a commercial break without saying, " Hi, so and so here on CNN and we bring to you some breaking news on the mystery of Flight 370" or "More breaking news that may be best lead yet on the mystery of Flight 370, when we return".
CNN has become the 24 hour plane search network. I could paint that redhead victim family member from memory now. Are the producers banging her or something?

Anything but talk about Russia, I guess.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:08 pm to
Bringing this back to top... Ocean Shield towed pinger locater picked up signal pings again yesterday. The location is getting refined quickly. Not yet to the point of deploying autonomous underwater vehicle.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62929 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:18 pm to
There's been so many "breaking news" on finding out details of the whereabouts of the 777, we've all become numb to it.
And since none of it has led us 100% to the airliner, if and when something definitive is found, at first ill be skeptical of it.
Posted by EventHorizon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
1031 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:15 am to
these pings have been picked up right along the calculated path ('satellite handshake'), so far so good
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