re: Hannibal S2 Thread

I wonder if that was his "mind palace" he was referring to because she's been straight scared as hell of Hannibal since season 1. I think it was real though which is confusing.

Oh and remind me to try and never bleed to death in Baltimore. Seriously, where were the fricking cops?

Epic finale. Mads Mikkelsen and Hugh Dancy better be nominated for an Emmy. This season was impeccable. I hope it gets some traction next year.

Wow.

So was Dr. Scully in on all of it? Telling Will she believed him so he would trust her and confide in her? Running away and pretending to be scared so Will and Jack wouldn't suspect her? Or has Hannibal done something to scare her into going with him?

The only thing that rang false was Alana and Will both taking too long to shoot. Yeah, Alana didn't have bullets, another thing that rang false - she's going into a house where she knows Jack is confronting a crazy arse killer and she doesn't check to make sure the gun is loaded? She prepared enough to have another clip, but didn't check the clip in her gun?

And Will FINALLY catches Hannibal in the act and doesn't immediately shoot but gets close enough to Hannibal for him to stroke his face and then gut him?

I think everyone but Abigail survives, too but I do wonder if Alana might end up paralyzed.

Off to read Bryan Fuller's AVClub walkthrough.

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Seriously, where were the fricking cops?

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Both Alana and Will had called for help. What is it with Baltimore?

I hate to say it, but this was all a bunch of bullshite. Jack applies a tourniquet to his neck(!), Abigal comes out of nowhere, Will forgets he has a gun and allows Hannibal to embrace and gut him, Scully is Hannibal's traveling companion like some half-arse Clarice but without any backstory to explain it, etc. On top of it all, Hannibal is a pretty incompetent murderer, because all of Mason, Alana, Jack, and Will will be his survivors, and I wouldn't be surprised if Abigail survives yet another throat slashing. And the dialogue the last few episodes has often been tedious, very tedious. The real Lecter would have killed them all, including the impostor portraying him.

Was there a scene after the credits? I did not watch the credits to the end.

Yes. Watch it.

My wife looked at me after that episode and said "I hate you".

shite that was crazy.

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What confused me a little was why Will called Hannibal and said "They know". Did Will want Hannibal to get away before Jack got their to keep him safe? It seems to me that even though they are arch nemesis, they really care for each other.

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I think you're right. Will probably knew that what would happen to Jack if he went in there without backup. He assumed Hannibal would just take off into hiding without harming anyone. It was also sort of a nod back to S1E1 when Hannibal called Garret Jacob Hobbs and said the same thing.


I rewatched the finale this morning and I'm curious about something Will said to Hannibal right after he gutted him. Hannibal asked Will "Did you think you could change me?" Will responds with "I already have". Hannibal thinks for a moment then calls Abigail over to slit her throat.

Still don't understand what Will meant there.

I also found the dinner scene right after Hannibal smelled Freddy on Will to sort of be the nail in the coffin. He gave Will a chance to come clean about playing double agent and would've probably spared everyone had Will done so but obviously that didn't happen. It was almost like Hannibal didn't want to have to kill everyone. Almost

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He did change Hannibal... in so many different ways. Hannibal fell in love with their relationship and for the first time, became vulnerable. He's opened up more than he ever has and no longer as precise and invincible that he once was. You can even look at it from a different angle and Will has helped Hannibal evolve. Instead of hiding in the shadows, he's finally become the Chesapeake Ripper. The same way Hannibal wanted Will to evolve, Will did the same for him.

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Very good points. I didn't really think about it like that.

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Is this how the books go, Hannibal escapes an attempt by Jack and Will to catch him and goes on the run? Or did they go away from the books completely?

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BOOK SPOILERS...I guess.












Yeah, completely different from the books. Will and Hannibal's entire "relationship" is a creation of this series.

Will is on to Hannibal and Hannibal guts him (and is caught) the second time they even met in the books. And that story isn't even "shown"; it's just described by Will as he's discussing it with another character in Red Dragon.

Yeah, Will does get gutted by Hannibal, in his office IIRC. But, once again, that all happens before the events of any of the books and Will is just recollecting the events later.

The show does a pretty neat job of taking things from the books and the movies but mixing them up so the times and even the contexts are completely different.

An example is the "You would deny me my life?" "Not your life" "Just my freedom, then?" bit from the latest episode. That was an exchange between Hannibal and Clarice from the movie "Hannibal" but the context here is so much different. In the movie, Hannibal said it with admiration at the proof that Clarice was incorruptible but here with Will he says it with such disdain and hurt.