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re: Michael Sam could go undrafted
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:01 pm to Tiger the Hutt
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:01 pm to Tiger the Hutt
People are nit picking him to death because he is gay.
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:04 pm to FootballNostradamus
This is why the coaching turnover is so high in the NFL. Most of them have no idea of what they're doing.
Sometimes you give the guy a chance because he's a good football player. SEC defensive player of the year going undrafted? Gotta be kidding me.
Sometimes you give the guy a chance because he's a good football player. SEC defensive player of the year going undrafted? Gotta be kidding me.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:13 pm to Nonetheless
Of course no ones gunna draft him, he's gay.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:23 pm to Goldrush25
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Add in his poor combine numbers and it's easy to see how he might go undrafted.
quote:
Before his announcement, Sam had already emerged as a divisive prospect. Some look at his SEC-best 11.5 sacks and 19 tackles for loss and see a high-motor pass rusher who could go as high as the third round. Others see Sam, who is 6-foot-2 and 260 pounds, as an undersized defensive end without a true position in the NFL. Of his 11.5 sacks, nine came in three games against what one scout called "garbage competition" -- Vanderbilt, Arkansas State and Florida. "His numbers are inflated," a scout said. "You've got to see through that."
Add in his poor combine numbers and it's easy to see how he might go undrafted.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:44 pm to bbrownso
OK who sues the NFL for being racist if he goes undrafted?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:45 pm to JBeam
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Did you forget that he was SECDPOTY?
That is irrelevant to his draft status. Tommie Frazier was one of the best college players of all time and went undrafted
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:50 pm to quail man
SEC DPOY winners
2003 - Chad Lavalais - 5th round
2004 -David Pollack - 1st round
2005 - Demeco Ryans - 2nd round
2006 - Patrick Willis - 1st round
2007 - Glenn Dorsey - 1st round
2008 - Eric Berry - 1st round
2009 - Rolando Mclain -1st round
2010 - Patrick Peterson - 1st round
2011 - Morris Claiborne - 1st round
2012 - Jarvis Jones - 1st round
2013 - Michael Sam -????
2003 - Chad Lavalais - 5th round
2004 -David Pollack - 1st round
2005 - Demeco Ryans - 2nd round
2006 - Patrick Willis - 1st round
2007 - Glenn Dorsey - 1st round
2008 - Eric Berry - 1st round
2009 - Rolando Mclain -1st round
2010 - Patrick Peterson - 1st round
2011 - Morris Claiborne - 1st round
2012 - Jarvis Jones - 1st round
2013 - Michael Sam -????
Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:38 pm to Sterling Archer
quote:
SEC DPOY winners
2003 - Chad Lavalais - 5th round
2004 -David Pollack - 1st round
2005 - Demeco Ryans - 2nd round
2006 - Patrick Willis - 1st round
2007 - Glenn Dorsey - 1st round
2008 - Eric Berry - 1st round
2009 - Rolando Mclain -1st round
2010 - Patrick Peterson - 1st round
2011 - Morris Claiborne - 1st round
2012 - Jarvis Jones - 1st round
2013 - Michael Sam -????
SEC DL/LB DPOY winners:
Chad Lavalais - 5.09 forty 27.5 (?) in. vertical
David Pollack - 4.75 forty, 37 in. vertical, 25 reps
Demeco Ryans - 4.65 forty, 39 in. vertical, 23 reps
Patrick Willis -4.51 forty, 39 in. vertical, 22 reps
Glenn Dorsey - 5.12 forty, 25.5 in. vertical, 27 reps
Rolando McClain -4.68 forty, 35 in. vertical, 24 reps
Jarvis Jones - 4.92 forty(pro day), 30.5 in. vertical, 20 reps
Michael Sam - 4.91 forty, 25.5 in. vertical, 17 reps
He's slower than most of the linebackers but only marginally faster than the DTs with worse upper body strength than all of them. It's not looking great for Sam.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:40 pm to Sterling Archer
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2003 - Chad Lavalais - 5th round 2004 -David Pollack - 1st round 2005 - Demeco Ryans - 2nd round 2006 - Patrick Willis - 1st round 2007 - Glenn Dorsey - 1st round 2008 - Eric Berry - 1st round 2009 - Rolando Mclain -1st round 2010 - Patrick Peterson - 1st round 2011 - Morris Claiborne - 1st round 2012 - Jarvis Jones - 1st round 2013 - Michael Sam -????
Don't know about everyone of these guys, but most of them were good for 2-3 years straight making a name for themselves. They also played great during most competition. Sam wasn't even known til about half way through this season. What is he a 4th, 5th year senior? Undersized and has a horrible combine? He probably needs to drop some weight and learn to play one of the LB position.
If 90% of his highlights are against crap offenses, that's a red flag.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:41 pm to bbrownso
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with worse upper body strength than all of them.
i think lavalais only had 17 reps, IIRC
Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:42 pm to Sevendust912
quote:The other poster wanted to make a big deal about his performance at the combine & the fact that his competition this season was weak.
That is irrelevant to his draft status.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:46 pm to JBeam
quote:
The other poster wanted to make a big deal about his performance at the combine & the fact that his competition this season was weak.
He didn't say his competition was weak, he said the competition he produced against was weak, and he has an argument.
My argument was that being SECDPOY is irrelevant to his draft status because it is, hence the Frazier reference.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:51 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
he reminds me of Darryl Tapp
I bet he'd tap Darryl.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:33 pm to Nonetheless
he should go undrafted. He is weak and slow.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:53 pm to Nonetheless
Michael Sam is this years Manti Teo
Much ado about nothing
Much ado about nothing
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:21 pm to Nonetheless
If the SEC Defensive Player of the Year goes undrafted, I think I'll be OK with that because frick the SEC and its idiot redneck fans.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:24 pm to Sophandros
PASSION
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:37 pm to Sevendust912
Why all the hate on Vanderbilt? They finished the season ranked in the top 25 with a bowl win last season.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:39 pm to Nonetheless
quote:bold take!!!
Michael Sam could go undrafted
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:44 pm to shel311
Man this sucks arse. The fact that he could go undrafted is nuts.
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