re: Is "Frozen" Disney Animation's best work?

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Every town, has its ups and downs... and sometimes the ups, outnumber the downs...but not in Nottingham.

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Love Robin Hood.

Also REALLY love Sword in the Stone. Both are likely in my top five/ten Disney animated movies (definitely were in there pre-Pixar).

I feel like the Lion King will always be my #1, like most here.

I love Up, but I don't disagree with you that it's all downhill after the first thirty minutes or so (after he flies away).

My issue with Frozen is that as good as it was (and it's very good), I didn't love it. It was far too "Broadway-y" for me. I don't mind songs in movies like that, but it was a little too much for the first half of the movie or so...and even those songs felt like performances instead of songs within the movie (as opposed to older Disney classics where the songs are sort of seamless).

Like I said before...great movie, but nowhere near Disney's best.

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My issue with Frozen is that as good as it was (and it's very good), I didn't love it. It was far too "Broadway-y" for me. I don't mind songs in movies like that, but it was a little too much for the first half of the movie or so...and even those songs felt like performances instead of songs within the movie (as opposed to older Disney classics where the songs are sort of seamless).

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yeah, i could understand that. It hasn't bothered me that much. Like I said, I think time will be the best deciding factor. It was definitely more Broadway like. I think that was the intent though. Afterall, Idina Menzel is a Broadway star. And, Santino Fontana and Jonathan Groff both have Broadyway experience. But, every song is really good. And, I never knew that Kristen Bell could sing so well. BTW, Kristen Bell has also been in a Broadway show.

Frick, even Josh Gad (who voiced Olaf) has Broadway experience.

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Honestly, I really do think he's the best. The concept of te character is gold: a snowman who craves the heat of summer, completely oblivious to its meaning for him and really everything else. The Genie is the only one I think that is really in the debate with him.

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yeah the over the top child like innocence/ignorance thing worked for some good laughs. i know matt and trey deserve most of the credit but gad stole most every scene he was in in book of mormon.

i know some people are bleh on robin williams but i'm right there with you on the genie.

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This was a nice change.

I thought it's biggest flaw was that it didn't really have a villain. Disney is known for it's great villains (Evil Queen, Maleficent, Scar, Jafar, etc.).

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its noticeable and what i think throws some people off that it's not so formulaic (sp?) so the movie may be discounted compared with other movies in the disney catalogue bc of it.

but i liked the fact that it focused on their inner conflict separately and then their conflict with each other sisterly until a villain arose.

and while the songs are all broadway-y they serve great purposes
do you want to build a snowman- anna struggles with life away from her sister, elsa struggles with her powers and her isolation as well. then they both face the loss of their parents.

first time in forever- is anna's awakening song. finally she gets to feel normal and be around and interact with others.

let it go- elsa's awakening song. no longer does she have to hide who she is. locked in a room, afraid of her powers. she can be herself. she's a fricking ice queen.

the reprise of first time in forever is realization of elsa's freedom and rebirth as being temporary. anna still needing her sister and elsa in a mess bc of her powers again.



i have to listen to the soundtrack every morning when i take my girls to school so i know my stuff.

and fixer upper is way underrated. great song with a great message that i think gets lost in the shuffle.

Alladin is my favorite. But for sure-fire brilliance, The Lion King takes the cake.

I loved Frozen.

I've read up a lot about the story and it's very interesting of how it came to be. The film is an adaptation of Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen. They started and scrapped the project more than once and it wasn't until after the success of Tangled that they really dug into it and found a storyline that worked and a Snow Queen that people would love.

Lots of good information on Frozen's Wiki Page.

Link to Frozen Wiki Page

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"Hans Christian Andersen’s original version of The Snow Queen is a pretty dark tale and it doesn't translate easily into a film. For us the breakthrough came when we tried to give really human qualities to the Snow Queen. When we decided to make the Snow Queen Elsa and our protagonist Anna sisters, that gave a way to relate to the characters in a way that conveyed what each was going through and that would relate for today’s audiences. This film has a lot of complicated characters and complicated relationships in it. There are times when Elsa does villainous things but because you understand where it comes from, from this desire to defend herself, you can always relate to her. 'Inspired by' means exactly that. There is snow and there is ice and there is a Queen, but other than that, we depart from it quite a bit. We do try to bring scope and the scale that you would expect but do it in a way that we can understand the characters and relate to them."
— Producer Peter Del Vecho, on the difficulties adapting The Snow Queen[28]

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I feel like Frozen will stand the test of time. I was a kid when The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid, etc. all came out and trying to compare something with that much nostalgia to something new and fresh is nearly impossible to me.