re: Field Goals RE: Vinatieri's Suggestion of 4 pts for 50+ yards

Yea if u down by 3 at the end what if u pass up the 33 mistake. what u gonna run backward and kneel then call timeout. That would make the game annoying.

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high rate of touchbacks

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This gets me more than anything. Some of the most exciting plays in football are from a KO return. Special teams is being phased out and is hurting the excitement of the game. Make touchbacks bring the ball to the 30. If you're too chicken shite to allow a return, it should hurt you more than the other team getting the ball at the 20.

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you realize the cold weather more than made up for the advantage of the altitude.

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Actually, colder weather is less dense than warmer climates. Dempsey was kicking in warm weather in an area 4-5 feet below sea level. If Dempsey would have tried the same kick up in Denver, it would have probably been good from 70 plus yards out!

So when you're down 3 on the 20 with :15 to go and facing 3d and 10, you retreat, kneel it, and try to kick the game winning FG?

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Actually, colder weather is less dense than warmer climates. Dempsey was kicking in warm weather in an area 4-5 feet below sea level. If Dempsey would have tried the same kick up in Denver, it would have probably been good from 70 plus yards out!

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You are misinformed.

Warm air is going to be less dense than cold air

They had several breakdowns of it this year after the record breaking kick

Now humidity is another factor all together

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But, I agree. Having a 20 yard FG count the same as a 60 yard FG doesn't make a lot of sense. Any FG inside the 10 should be 2 points if we are going to do this.

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God what a stupid arse post.

So when a team drives the ball to the 2 yard line then kicks a FG should only get 2 points, but when their drive stalls on the 33 they get 4 points?

What an awesome way to penalize good offense.

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think it needs to focus on if you make say a 60+ yard FG, you can then maybe award 4 points.

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So a 59 yarder is only 3 points but a 60 yarder is 4?

Again that's penalizing teams for good drive. The better your drive, the easier your FG attempt (if you don't score a TD). It's a pretty easy concept. A 60 yard TD isn't worth more than a 1 yard TD

But a team down by 4 on the 20 with 10 seconds left would run backwards and lose yardage intentionally to tie the game...

I think people are taking the whole "penalizing a team for driving far." Well, no not really, the further you drive, the better your chance is to get a TD. If you stall out, you drove all the way down and the FG is more makeable then it would have been. I don't think it's "penalizing" when getting the points is easier.
I think it just seems that way now bc you've always gotten three points.

Again, to me this is a complicated issue and finding a solution a lot of people will agree on is going to be near impossible. But I do think that this can be looked into in some way.