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I said that because SFP doesn't believe in any protected classes.


Or because you have a narrow view of people in the south.






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No, they wont.


Why the frick wouldn't they? Would the negative press and picketing cuase a back lash againt siad company?






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I know someone who put his long time business in his newly acquired wife's name for a tax break....





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You didn't even address my last post...so clearly you want to have an honest debate about this.

But now I'll add a second question you won't answer.

What if a business hires a gay person over a straight person just because they're gay?




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Having one do it is wrong.

i agree it's wrong

i think lots of stuff people do with their property is wrong. at the end of the day, it's not my property

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No, they wont.

if the public doesn't support their policies, they will suffer. at least national companies






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Mickey Goldmill
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But anyway, anybody that would do this would absolutely be crushed under pressure from the free market and another business would happily take that labor and customers the bigoted business would refuse and the aforementioned business would have no recourse against that as opposed to the gov't forcing morality on them.



No they wont. That's my point. The business will not suffer at all. They aren't going to put out a banner saying they aren't hiring gay people. In most cases, it will never be known. And gay people dont make up enough of the workforce to put a dent in their labor search.






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Mickey Goldmill
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Or because you have a narrow view of people in the south.



No, because thats what SFP believes. I'm from the south and love it here.






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Mickey Goldmill
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Why the frick wouldn't they? Would the negative press and picketing cuase a back lash againt siad company?



Do you honestly believe every single instance of discrimination gets put on the 5 o'clock news? Please wake up people.






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And gay people dont make up enough of the workforce to put a dent in their labor search.

so what miniscule, arbitrary grouping of people do you think we should also include in ENDA?

if we're going to get this done, let's do it for everybody. i'm tired of some new cause and its supporters' annoying, unethical, and sometimes illegal tactics. let's add them all.

annd.....go






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hat way everyone in the South can avoid having to hire, promote, give raises to blacks and women.


Boston in that liberal bastion of Massachusetts says hi as the most racist city in America. Dumbass






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No they wont. That's my point


That's cute, chicken little.






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But anyway, anybody that would do this would absolutely be crushed under pressure from the free market and another business would happily take that labor and customers the bigoted business would refuse and the aforementioned business would have no recourse against that as opposed to the gov't forcing morality on them.



So if say you work for SFP law firm and he fires you for being gay. You think his firm would be "crushed under pressure from the free market" and another firm would take his business and hire his gay worker?




Yeah that'll happen






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Mickey Goldmill
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if the public doesn't support their policies, they will suffer. at least national companies



Agree that a national company employing hundreds or thousands will get the publicity and backlash where it harms them. But what about the thousands of business where they only employ 15-20 people? Especially if these businesses are in areas where people dont care about minority rights.






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So if say you work for SFP law firm and he fires you for being gay. You think his firm would be "crushed under pressure from the free market" and another firm would take his business and hire his gay worker?

so if the firm is so insignificant in the big picture, why do we need NATIONAL laws regulating the behavior?

that makes no sense






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Boston in that liberal bastion of Massachusetts says hi as the most racist city in America. Dumbass


Whatever point you're trying to make fails because of your silly name calling.






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Mickey Goldmill
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What if a business hires a gay person over a straight person just because they're gay?



That is wrong and I don't support that.

See, go ahead and try to demonize me all you want. I'm consistent and base my beliefs on principle. Not self-interest.






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so if the firm is so insignificant in the big picture, why do we need NATIONAL laws regulating the behavior?

that makes no sense



Because in 28 states you can be fired for being gay and in those states, including Louisiana, there will never, in our lifetime, have a law which prevents this. The only way to do it is on a national scale.






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I know someone who put his long time business in his newly acquired wife's name for a tax break....


Go after a government contract one the the questions is if this is a female or minority owned business.






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Jbird
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In most cases, it will never be known


Then what is the point of this legislation, feel good?






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Because in 28 states you can be fired for being gay and in those states, including Louisiana, there will never, in our lifetime, have a law which prevents this.

i'm talking scale







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