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re: "Gravity" Tomatometer Thread: 215 Reviews, 98% Fresh
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:25 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:25 pm to RollTide1987
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I am a prophet:
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@giteshpandya
Source puts #Gravity on track for about $20M today. Wknd may break $50M for new career records for Bullock & Clooney both.
10/4/13 8:38 PM
A post made by me this morning:
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I'm gonna take a risk by going out on a limb and say this movie will make around $50 million at the box office this weekend. The high pre-sales, the star power, the incredible reviews, all of it will combine for a successful weekend.
Except every prediction out there has put it between 45-55 million. Save for Mojo's prediction yesterday which put it under 40.
You are no prophet. You are a good internet reader though.
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Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:41 pm to Freauxzen
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Except every prediction out there has put it between 45-55 million. Save for Mojo's prediction yesterday which put it under 40.
WRONG.
They are doing so now. But as of this morning, boxoffice.com was still wondering if it could hit $40 million.
They have been steadily updating their predictions as the day progressed. The same can be said for all those who are currently predicting $45-55 million.
Boxofficemojo ($40 million) and Boxofficeguru ($35 million) predictions are around what everyone was saying when I made that post at 10:30 yesterday morning.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:47 pm to RollTide1987
Observe my ignorant friend:
Boxoffice.com was calling for an opening around $35-40 million as of Thursday evening. This is how they updated it after Thursday night returns finally came in:
Around the time they were predicting $42 million, I was predicting $50 million.
As pre-sales continued to go up...they were forced to update their predictions:
By the early evening hours they had enhanced their prediction from $42 million to $45 million. But they weren't done yet:
This was their late night update. A box office estimate closer to my 10:30 AM prediction. Other box office prognostication sites have updated their predictions in a similar pattern.
Boxoffice.com was calling for an opening around $35-40 million as of Thursday evening. This is how they updated it after Thursday night returns finally came in:
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Friday Update: Warner Bros. reports that Gravity took in a healthy $1.4 million from Thursday evening shows.
The opening marks a promising start for a film that isn't part of an established franchise. It's clear that enthusiastic reviews from the majority of critics--Gravity currently boasts an impressive 98% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes--is having a positive impact. Warner Bros. couldn't get better reviews if they hired someone to write them.
Nearly 52,000 Flixster users have combined to give the space thriller an impressive 90% approval rating--an early sign that word of mouth is going to be strong. We expect Gravity to start off well on Friday and then really surge on Saturday. Our weekend forecast is $42 million.
Around the time they were predicting $42 million, I was predicting $50 million.
As pre-sales continued to go up...they were forced to update their predictions:
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Friday Update #2: Sources tell BoxOffice that Gravity is headed for an opening north of $40 million based on the strength of early Friday grosses. That's an excellent start for the space thriller. Gravity is already beloved by critics, but now paying audiences are falling for it as well. If word of mouth explodes this weekend, then don't be surprised if Gravity hits $45 million.
By the early evening hours they had enhanced their prediction from $42 million to $45 million. But they weren't done yet:
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Friday Update #3: Sources now tell BoxOffice that Gravity could end up with as much as $48 million this weekend. Meanwhile, Runner Runner seems poised to end up slightly below $10 million.
Official estimates coming tomorrow morning...
This was their late night update. A box office estimate closer to my 10:30 AM prediction. Other box office prognostication sites have updated their predictions in a similar pattern.
This post was edited on 10/4/13 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:48 pm to Fun Bunch
Just saw it. It was a surprisingly good movie.
Most of the film involved only one character....sort of like Cast Away. They did a great job with the effects.
Not too popular considering the cast. There were maybe 20 people in the theater at a 9:20 showing on a Friday night in a Memphis suburb. I would hope it does well. I don't think there's any othe movie out now that's as entertaining.
Most of the film involved only one character....sort of like Cast Away. They did a great job with the effects.
Not too popular considering the cast. There were maybe 20 people in the theater at a 9:20 showing on a Friday night in a Memphis suburb. I would hope it does well. I don't think there's any othe movie out now that's as entertaining.
This post was edited on 10/5/13 at 12:04 am
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:53 pm to dewster
Just saw this in IMAX 3D. Well worth the $15. The visuals are incredible.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:56 pm to RollTide1987
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They have been steadily updating their predictions as the day progressed. The same can be said for all those who are currently predicting $45-55 million.
Yes they all updated their predictions between about 9am and 2pm, just about after their first morning press goes out and they prep their stories for the afternoon, which are, wait for it....
45-55 million.
You took a 35-40 million prediction and added in the insane positive press, nightly numbers, and didn't have to go through an editor to put it on the internet. Cheers!
Congratulations. You have logic and common sense. Now put them to better use. Anyone following film could see this make $50+, it's easily the best and most intriguing movie this weekend.
Posted on 10/5/13 at 12:04 am to RollTide1987
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Observe my ignorant friend:
My you do take this personally. As I said...
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‘Gravity’ Tracking for a $40 Mil-Plus Bow With Record 3D Sales
That was YESTERDAY. So was this...
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Let’s do this predicting thing:
Gravity - $47 Million
1pm Today:
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Box Office: 'Gravity' Soaring Friday, Eyeing $45 Million to $50 Million Domestic Debut
And you do realize that the media intentionally plays the game of underselling films and revising numbers throughout the day. For any well marketed movie, numbers start low and climb in predictions Happens every single time. Even with Avengers. Any film with positive press and the right kind of spin will almost always beat its original prediction by about 10-20%. It's a science to them. And good marketing tactics.
This post was edited on 10/5/13 at 12:06 am
Posted on 10/5/13 at 12:09 am to Freauxzen
Just for home from watching Gravity in imax 3d.
What an awesome movie.
What an awesome movie.
Posted on 10/5/13 at 12:19 am to Freauxzen
For me the story had major plot issues that just left it in the good category and not great
Was their character development YES
Was the plot ridiculous? YES
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Funny how every time she went to another space station the shrapnel seemed to follow her. I mean the shrapnel is traveling around the Earth in a straight line and makes a loop every hour and a half. Was all the space stations in a line and just happened to be lined up in the path of the shrapnel? I mean really??? It hit her in the shuttle, it hit her in the next space station, then it followed her to the last one. Come on man?!?!?
Small pieces of shrapnel are all over the place traveling faster than a bullet and it just so happened NONE of them hit her suit? Is she just that good??
Her escape pod to Earth is tumbling toward Earth --spinning end over end-- and then, by some cinematic miracle it straightens out in the perfect position to not burn her up???
Was their character development YES
Was the plot ridiculous? YES
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Funny how every time she went to another space station the shrapnel seemed to follow her. I mean the shrapnel is traveling around the Earth in a straight line and makes a loop every hour and a half. Was all the space stations in a line and just happened to be lined up in the path of the shrapnel? I mean really??? It hit her in the shuttle, it hit her in the next space station, then it followed her to the last one. Come on man?!?!?
Small pieces of shrapnel are all over the place traveling faster than a bullet and it just so happened NONE of them hit her suit? Is she just that good??
Her escape pod to Earth is tumbling toward Earth --spinning end over end-- and then, by some cinematic miracle it straightens out in the perfect position to not burn her up???
Posted on 10/5/13 at 12:29 am to tigersaint26
You're really, really overthinking it. Sure none of that is likely to happen. In fact the shrapnel should not be going that fast towards them really, since they should be falling at the same rate around the Earth. If they were staying still, sure it would be going that fast towards them, but that's clearly not happening. So the shrapnel is actually traveling over twice their speed in order to catch up with them.
Cuaron just doesn't really give a damn, since he wasn't after telling a realistic story, just one where the tension was as high as humanly possible and wanted you to believe that your characters would die at any second. He completely succeeded at that. I don't really see a problem when a director does exactly what he set out to achieve.
Cuaron just doesn't really give a damn, since he wasn't after telling a realistic story, just one where the tension was as high as humanly possible and wanted you to believe that your characters would die at any second. He completely succeeded at that. I don't really see a problem when a director does exactly what he set out to achieve.
Posted on 10/5/13 at 12:34 am to tigersaint26
*spoilers*
Your first question: there are 3 levels of orbit, varying at height relative to Earth's surface. The first level is where we have the ISS and other stations. Other layers are only satellites. So it makes perfect sense that all of these were hit by the shrapnel. It takes a long time to travel between the stations and the shrapnel was traveling very fast. Her not being hit by shrapnel is just plain dumb luck. Her escape pod evened out because she was controlling it, I believe.
The only thing that really bugged me was that they traveled in the opposite direction to which they were orbiting. 'weightlessness' in orbit is experienced because you're traveling around the earth as fast as you're falling to earth. (18000 mpg if I recall correctly) If you travel the opposite direction of the direction your orbiting, you'll fall out of orbit. So, in reality, in pretty positive they would never have made it to other stations. She would not have flown away from Earth in the opening sequence, Gravity would have sucked her to earth.
Your first question: there are 3 levels of orbit, varying at height relative to Earth's surface. The first level is where we have the ISS and other stations. Other layers are only satellites. So it makes perfect sense that all of these were hit by the shrapnel. It takes a long time to travel between the stations and the shrapnel was traveling very fast. Her not being hit by shrapnel is just plain dumb luck. Her escape pod evened out because she was controlling it, I believe.
The only thing that really bugged me was that they traveled in the opposite direction to which they were orbiting. 'weightlessness' in orbit is experienced because you're traveling around the earth as fast as you're falling to earth. (18000 mpg if I recall correctly) If you travel the opposite direction of the direction your orbiting, you'll fall out of orbit. So, in reality, in pretty positive they would never have made it to other stations. She would not have flown away from Earth in the opening sequence, Gravity would have sucked her to earth.
This post was edited on 10/5/13 at 12:35 am
Posted on 10/5/13 at 12:37 am to OMLandshark
I understand that to make a movie that keeps you on the edge of your seats you sometimes need to bend the rules.
But for me these plot issues and the fact that just about anything that could have gone wrong does, just makes me roll my eyes. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was entertaining, but one of the best overall movies of the year? No. Maybe visually, but not overall.
But for me these plot issues and the fact that just about anything that could have gone wrong does, just makes me roll my eyes. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was entertaining, but one of the best overall movies of the year? No. Maybe visually, but not overall.
Posted on 10/5/13 at 1:26 am to Hulkklogan
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Her escape pod evened out because she was controlling it, I believe.
It evened out because it naturally fell into its most aerodynamically stable position. That part was factual enough.
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The only thing that really bugged me was that they traveled in the opposite direction to which they were orbiting. 'weightlessness' in orbit is experienced because you're traveling around the earth as fast as you're falling to earth. (18000 mpg if I recall correctly) If you travel the opposite direction of the direction your orbiting, you'll fall out of orbit. So, in reality, in pretty positive they would never have made it to other stations. She would not have flown away from Earth in the opening sequence, Gravity would have sucked her to earth.
They deviated from their orbital velocity by no more than 30 or 40 mph. It made virtually no difference. There were PLENTY of problems with the aspects of the movie but neither of those were really one of them.
What bothered me the most, inaccuracy wise is that the movie acted like the Hubbell, the Chinese station and the ISS are all neighbors within walking distance. In reality they all orbit at completely different inclinations (flying in different directions) and never get closer that a few thousand miles from each other. If the Shuttle working on the Hubbell telescope gets blown up and you live, you're still screwed. I know it's a movie but it's a movie that tries to prove itself as plausible.
Overall I DID enjoy it, but I just don't see how anybody is rating it above an 8 unless visuals are all they care about. If this movie was made in 1999 with the tech at the time it wouldn't be that big of a deal
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Posted on 10/5/13 at 1:34 am to OMLandshark
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wanted you to believe that your characters would die at any second.
Well he telegraphed Matt's death clearly twice within the first 5 minutes and once Matt was gone it was pretty clear that Sandra (I refuse to call a woman Ryan) was going to make it, at least back to the surface of our planet.
Watch this movie again on FX without all of the window dressing that 3D provied and its true nature will come out.
Posted on 10/5/13 at 7:38 am to The_Joker
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Overall I DID enjoy it, but I just don't see how anybody is rating it above an 8 unless visuals are all they care about.
you have a right to your opinion but don't come out and say that how could anyone think this movie is over an 8/10. same goes with people, like me, who think this is one of the best movies recently don't make that opinion the only acceptable one. I'm sorry if i've done this
also if your going to try and bash the movie do things that actually decrease its quality, and not some thing you read into it(not really speaking to you but the troll in this thread)
Posted on 10/5/13 at 7:42 am to DURANTULA
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Well he telegraphed Matt's death clearly twice within the first 5 minutes and once Matt was gone it was pretty clear that Sandra (I refuse to call a woman Ryan) was going to make it, at least back to the surface of our planet.
please explain a-little more
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Watch this movie again on FX without all of the window dressing that 3D provied and its true nature will come out.
i hate movies on TV they ruin the true experience of watching a movie. Just think of watching this on TV, Sandra Bullock has another near escape and bam it goes to commercial break and you are watching some car commercial. They also cut out stuff.
I will watch this movie again when it comes out and I suspect I will be ever more impressed with it.
Posted on 10/5/13 at 7:49 am to DURANTULA
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I don't think that scene was implying that at all. I thought that she was going to die in that capsule listening to the baby, and I think I would have been content with that ending.
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Well he telegraphed Matt's death clearly twice within the first 5 minutes and once Matt was gone it was pretty clear that Sandra (I refuse to call a woman Ryan) was going to make it, at least back to the surface of our planet.
I don't think that scene was implying that at all. I thought that she was going to die in that capsule listening to the baby, and I think I would have been content with that ending.
Posted on 10/5/13 at 8:10 am to OMLandshark
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dito but I loved the dream scene
my buddy next to me said he just killed her.
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I don't think that scene was implying that at all. I thought that she was going to die in that capsule listening to the baby, and I think I would have been content with that ending.
dito but I loved the dream scene
my buddy next to me said he just killed her.
Posted on 10/5/13 at 9:31 am to The_Joker
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"shrapnel moving faster than a speeding bullet"
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clear skies with a chance of satellite debris"
these are perfect examples of what I was talking about when I said some of the dialogue was very "Michael Bay-sh"
"ladies and gentleman, the united states government just asked us to save the world.."
it's just kinda cringeworthy to me.
I think Gravity is a 9/10. It's an excellent theater experience, but some of the dialogue left a lot to be desired
Posted on 10/5/13 at 9:45 am to OMLandshark
I knew she wasn't going to die in the ISS pod. Too much time left. Unless Cuaron was just going to have a blank screen for the last 15 minutes or so.
The scene when she lands on earth and has all the water rushing I was useless. Did anyone really believe she wasn't going to survive at that point? Really? Did get a good laugh out of the random frog swimming though.
The scene when she lands on earth and has all the water rushing I was useless. Did anyone really believe she wasn't going to survive at that point? Really? Did get a good laugh out of the random frog swimming though.
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