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T or F: Tampa would be 1st or 2nd in the NFC South if they had a top 20 NFL QB

Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21557 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:44 pm
I say true.

Doug Martin is an amazing back. Their OL is good enough. Their D is very physical and they have some great players in David, Revis, Watson, and Claiborne.

Vincent Jackson is a mediocre enough WR to be good enough for them. If they had somebody mediocre at QB like Schaub, Bradford, Alex Smith, or Carson Palmer they would be pretty good, like 10-6 good.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:45 pm to
False.

The guys you mentioned (Bradford, Schaub etc) wouldn't make the Bucs better than 6-10
This post was edited on 9/15/13 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Edearl Watson
Parts Unknown
Member since May 2012
6782 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:45 pm to
True
with a new coach
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22856 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:46 pm to
Freeman hasnt lost them a game this year.
Posted by PKTiger
NOLA
Member since Apr 2013
836 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:46 pm to
False, but Tampa would be 2-0 if they had a coach that believed in discipline.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
48194 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:46 pm to
Freeman is probably about the 20th best QB. There are about 10 teams with AWFUL QBs...
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46122 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:46 pm to
There D is pretty solid and RB is good.

Freeman blows O line sucks. Jackson is no more than a number 2 WR. really should be a TE IMO
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18792 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:47 pm to
Schiano is a bigger problem. Being a psycho like Jim Harbaugh doesn't work if you aren't a good coach in other areas.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31084 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

Vincent Jackson is a mediocre enough WR to be good enough for them.

Once I read this, the rest of your post is irrelevant.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37535 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

Vincent Jackson is a mediocre enough WR
Laughable.

TB could be lights out with a better QB and a better coach.

The pieces are there besides that.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8628 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 8:49 pm to
I think Freeman is a pretty good quarterback. I'd say he is maybe 15-17.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27433 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:01 pm to
false
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
Member since Aug 2011
24115 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:06 pm to
if they made less bonehead mistakes...they could do it with Freeman, honestly
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14737 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:10 pm to
False.
That team falls on coaching. Huge penalties played a major factor in them now being able to gain a bigger lead.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:12 pm to
False. They lack discipline.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:15 pm to
I wouldn't doubt it but the coaching is a much bigger issue IMO. Tb defense played well, and a few times they did ok on offense. But it seems most times they did well some stupid penalty like illegal formation killed them. It seems the coaches aren't teaching the players the simplest things and its killing Tampa. I do agree freeman doesn't help matters though.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18967 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:09 pm to
possibly

Freeman is fricking horrible.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:16 pm to
Freeman was really awesome in 2010 as a 22-year-old.

The fact that he's regressed so much is puzzling.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
47138 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:19 pm to
They need a coach.

I thought Detroit was the most undisciplined team in the NFL until I saw TB today.

That comes from the top.. Schiano is a hot-headed, undisciplined douchebag.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:35 pm to
True
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