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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


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Lack of opportunity


Nope. After Blue's fumble there was plenty of opportunity. Les chose to trust Magee instead.

To answer OP:

Inability to learn new offense?
Poor ball protection in practice?
Poor pass protection?
Low work ethic/ attitude?






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mmcgrath
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


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Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?
He's fine. He can in with the "big package" for obvious running downs. Looked good when he got a chance to run them. Unfortunately some penalties took us out of those situations in the red zone and Hill and Magee came back in.






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JackAttack
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


He is nursing a small turf toe injury FYI and it is ONE game

And just like people thought Gary James was better than Dalton. Big city boys always get the hype, but we saw in the end who was the best. Hilliard>>James and it will be Hilliard>>Hill.

2012 Offensive Philosophy: We finally have a QB who can throw so you better respect us (300+yds vs Bama alone), but Les and Studd love to pound it, so don't be too pass happy. This put defenses in a bind where they couldn't commit hard to the run like in 2011. Hill fed off of Mett's success.

2011 Offensive Philosophy: Our QB sucks reading a defense so he will run or will hand it off. We are bigger and better up front than you...come and stop us. Defenses put 9 in the box. Yeah that's when Kenny did damage unlike the 2012 season where we could keep the defenses guessing.

Just watch their highlight films. High school or at LSU. That's easy to see who is better.



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Mr. Brooks
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


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Don't be too quick to write of Hilliard. When he came into the game it was for power running plays only. TCU was already stacking the line of scrimmage, and they were run blitzing Hilliard on every play.

[quote]This


^^^ This. Hilliard had 4 carries. He's a type of back that wears a defense down the more carries he gets. Unfortunately we have 4 running backs to split carries with and I'm not sure that'll happen.






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Rickdaddy4188
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


It's hard to have success with 2 carries.





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ForeverFight
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


I'd just like to point out that it's awesome that we have the gift of being able to run (and argue about) 4 studs of running backs.





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Patrick_Bateman
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


Everyone is criticizing OP for bringing this up after "one game". But Hilliard had a big drop-off last season from the season before. That's what the OP's getting at, I think. And it's a good question.





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TheDrunkenTigah
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


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I don't think that's the point he is trying to make. He regressed tremendously last year.


He was hurt all last year. All of our backs perform differently depending on the defense. Frank always goes with the hot hand, and it's foolish to think Hilliard won't have at least one monster game this year.






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Tiger79
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


Dude was too heavy last year, and under Miles running backs very seldom have back to back great years. I think this year it will be Blue/ McGee not Hill.





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He looked way more explosive as a freshman



he had 2 of top 3 longest runs on the team last year. 71 yards, and 60 yards






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But Hilliard had a big drop-off last season from the season before



he averaged 5.7 YPC last year. That was more than any RB except Blue, who only had 40 carries.








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redfish99
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


IMO he has lost that first quick step he had.





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Lester Earl
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and people fail to forget that when Hill bursted on the scene, it made him obsolete. Like most of the other RBS


First 6 games: 58 carries 382yards 6 TDs 6.5 YPC

Last 6 games after Hill emerged vs SC: 14 carries, 49 yards 0 TDs 3.5 YPC






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TheDoc
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


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and it will be Hilliard>>Hill


lol no

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Just watch their highlight films. High school or at LSU. That's easy to see who is better.


Mr. Hilliard, while Kenny was good 2 years ago, he's been a disappointment last year and Saturday.






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ZTiger87
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


How anyone can make judgements on any of our RBs after 1 game amazes me.





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CP3LSU25
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


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Hilliard did own the state rushing record( still does I believe), AND he didn't have the luxury running behind a 5*, and soon to be NFL tackle La'el Collins like Hill did.

That's my point. Everyone said hill wouldn't be as good because he had Collins blocking for him and when he got in trouble because of that freshman people were saying they didn't want or need hill






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TheDoc
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


Well Hill has certainly proven he's better than Hilliard.





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Patrick_Bateman
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


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How anyone can make judgements on any of our RBs after 1 game amazes me.
As has already been said multiple times, it's not just about 1 game. It's also about the second half of last season.






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biglil3
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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


he still looks too heavy imo....ever since Justin Vincent, we always seem to have a RB or 2 that plumps up





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re: Why is Hilliard not as good as he used to be?


imo he stopped having good runner vision. I don't know why or how that would happen. But it's pretty clear that where he used to slide through the holes and drop the hammer on the linebackers and the secondary, he now just charges right into the line and is a lot less effective as a result. He needs to keep his head up and be more patient.





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