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re: Am I the only one who is much less concerned
Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:35 pm to RonBurgundy
Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:35 pm to RonBurgundy
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about 300,000 people. Pretty decent sample size.
Bottom line- The audience preferred Man of Steel to Superman Returns
Size is nice, but who are these people?
I'm going out on a limb and guessing a vast majority are male, ages 16-28. Certainly that's a target demographic but that's not the only one out there.
And that doesn't mean that the audience didn't like the movie (clearly lots of people of all ages, sexes, etc went to see it), but citing user reviews on RT is not an ironclad argument in and of itself.
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:39 pm to Tactical1
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Viewer rating is just a defense people use to defend a poor film.
You can say it's a poor film all you want, but more people like it than Supes Returns.
We've been through this. You can offer nothing as evidence that more people prefer Supes Returns, so let's not get into it again.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:41 pm to Tactical1
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I know, I just have no real counter argument.
There is nothing wrong with that.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:42 pm to corndeaux
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citing user reviews on RT is not an ironclad argument in and of itself.
It's better than nothing.
Tactical is of the opinion that more people like Supes Returns, because well..... just because.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:50 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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more people like it than Supes Returns.
And the only thing you have to prove that people prefer Man of Steel is a viewer rating if people liked that one movie or not.
If we trusted viewer ratings, then how the hell does this happen.
But how could that be? Star Trek: Into Darkness has a 91% viewer rating.
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It's better than nothing.
Apparently not.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:54 pm to Green Chili Tiger
I'm not even watching this. Enough is enough. Time for something else.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:57 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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Tactical is of the opinion that more people like Supes Returns, because well..... just because
Superman Returns gets a lot of undo shite here and everywhere. Not a great movie, but still a good one IMO. It's just a different type of superhero movie. Contemplative and mournful rather than action packed and celebratory. Plus Kevin Spacey was just not good in it.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:09 pm to Tactical1
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If we trusted critic ratings, then how the hell does this happen.
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$649,729,822
as for the Star Trek movies...it was ranked at a Star Trek convention. The same source of the article
One Trek Mind led the survey-which named the woman captain as the "best" captain...in part because Picard was too much like Spock
what the writer had to say about results of survey:
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Now, just because something has to come in last doesn't make it a bad film. Somebody has to bring up the rear! But others in the press (see Hollywood Reporter) felt the need to stir up some controversy.
Personally, I like the fact that we have Khan bookending the list here. As far as the inclusion of Galaxy Quest, it was none other than Denise and Mike Okuda who came to the mic to vouch for it. I'm okay with it on the list, as it really does represent the spirit of Star Trek, as well as being a love letter to the fans.
Before I move off this topic, I'll give my stock response when asked about Star Trek Into Darkness. The film has tremendous casting, dynamite action sequences and is propulsive and fun.
Bottom line is that STID was a film that Trekkies hated because it was basically a remake of the Wrath of Khan-which was #1 on the list. RT's rating is more indicative of the world at large-not the hardcore Trek fan. RT is neither a Trekkie nor comic fan site.(FWIW-I liked it and thought it was the best "summer" movie of 2013)
Where MoS intersects with this is that most comic fans preferred MoS to SR and by every metric-the broader audience preferred it to SR.SR is a movie that will never have the love from hardcore fans and the audience disliked it enough that they rebooted the entire series.
Also- the owner of that page writes reviews on RT-he gave MoS an A-.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:14 pm to RonBurgundy
So what you are saying is the viewer rating is nothing to take serious. Got it.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:25 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Yep. There should be a petition online trying to boycott David Goyer. If he's writing the script, Ben Affleck is the least of your troubles.
I'm more interested in the Batman movies Affleck does outside of Batman-Superman.
I'm more interested in the Batman movies Affleck does outside of Batman-Superman.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:26 pm to JombieZombie
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boycott David Goyer.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:28 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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With how Affleck will portray Batman than I am about how Snyder will handle the character?
Definitely not.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:29 pm to Tactical1
So you use an arbitrary ranking list made by a bunch of pissed off nerds at the Star Trek Convention? Brilliant.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:30 pm to Tactical1
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But how could that be? Star Trek: Into Darkness has a 91% viewer rating.
Because it was done by Trekies, and the Trekies are pissed they made a Star Wars set in the Star Trek universe.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:40 pm to Tactical1
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But how could that be? Star Trek: Into Darkness has a 91% viewer rating.
More irrelevant drivel.
Again, let me know when you have ANYTHING that supports your pathetic argument that more people liked Supes Returns.
I won't hold my breath.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:42 pm to wadewilson
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So you use an arbitrary ranking list made by a bunch of pissed off nerds at the Star Trek Convention? Brilliant.
Proof that Supes Returns is like by more people
Duh
Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:46 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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Again, let me know when you have ANYTHING that supports your pathetic argument that more people liked Supes Returns.
Show me something that proves more people like Man of Steel instead of the proven to be flawed viewer rating.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 3:30 pm to Tactical1
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Show me something that proves more people like Man of Steel instead of the proven to be flawed viewer rating.
There is no evidence that wouldn't be at least somewhat flawed. It doesn't exist.
But we have RT and IMDB. Whether you want to admit it or not this is evidence.
You have jack fricking shite. fricking nothing.
Don't let that stop you from arguing though, amirite?
Posted on 8/27/13 at 3:32 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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With how Affleck will portray Batman than I am about how Snyder will handle the character?
No.
While this will not be Nolan's "Trilogy" Batman, Nolan/Goyer will keep a tight enough rein on Snyder to not let him turn Bats into a Schumacher version.
I will also say that after letting the initial shock wear off, I am not nearly as "frightened" of this casting decision as I was.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 3:35 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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we have RT and IMDB. Whether you want to admit it or not this is evidence.
Okay then
Man of Steel 56%
Superman Returns 75%
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Don't let that stop you from arguing though
I am not the one getting offended by this.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 3:41 pm
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