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Volvagia
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So you will limit someone's first amendment rights just to make your life easier.


Not at all.

They are free to say what they want.

But it's just a tad different for them to be able to look at an university campus and look at it not as a place of learning, but only as a confluence of highly impressionable people who just happened to hit voting age.....

They can put fliers of their views all over campus if they want.








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catholictigerfan
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Um....how am I overreacting and creating extremes?

Why was it a problem for the group if that wasn't EXACTLY what they planned to do? They wanted to have people at strategic points all through campus.

And it isn't about them preventing me from getting to class.

It's about them walking up to me unsolicited and being pushy.

A university is too much a target for special interests for it not to be annoying if they weren't regulated.



I understand your concerns but this country has a first amendment which allows its citizens to pratice their free speech. If you believe someone is being to pushy, trying to force things on you, bring it up to the university. But limiting someone's free speech to a small area near the union (which isn't the most heavily traveled place on campus) is un constitutional. Because LSU is a public institution they must follow the laws of this country

LSU's free speech alley limits free speech, I can't put it any simpler.









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catholictigerfan
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They are free to say what they want.


no they are not, go on LSU's campus in the quad and try to spread information about some campus event, some political action, so on and so forth. Before this new policy came into effect, how could a student effectively spread the message she wanted to?

Also there was clear discrimination on LSU's campus when it came to flier distribution and table set up. LSU would allow students to campaign for student government positions all throughout campus, but all other student groups were limited to free speech alley.

I don't feel like getting into this

but you are giving good reasons why this is goign to be bad for lsu or what ever. But I have one question for you, how do these reasons trump what the bill of rights said.

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Congress shall make no law . . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances


this one specifically has to do with free speech, aka protesting distributing material, etc.






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catholictigerfan
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I'm not going to get involved in an argument tonight, I've got all weekend off and I want to enjoy the 4th of july weekend. I'll check back in on this when I go to bed.







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Volvagia
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but you are giving good reasons why this is goign to be bad for lsu or what ever. But I have one question for you, how do these reasons trump what the bill of rights said.


Where is LSU policy an example of Congress making a law?

There are fricktons of precedent of students not having the same free speech protections on campus. While students are given largely free reign for passive speech (such as symbol wearing), active speech is allowed to not only be controlled, but even censored.

LSU could tell the Revielle not to print a story and it wouldn't be unconstituonal.






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FalseProphet
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While I may agree with the new law on a constitutional basis, I think it's pretty damn absurd that they let the crazies out of FSA.





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asurob1
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I'm not going to get involved in an argument tonight,


of course you do...that's why you posted this here.






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catholictigerfan
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of course you do...that's why you posted this here.



I didn't except people to have such a negative reaction to this. I thought this was going to be a positive reaction knowing how libertarian and conservative the poli board can be.






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FalseProphet
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No one wants anti- abortion fliers handed out all over campus.





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acgeaux129
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Maybe you were. Student government hands out shite all over campus during elections. People do all kinds of crazy stuff in the quad as well. I don't go there at all anymore, but I do remember some hippie dude trying to pass out zen philosophy movies to me.

Regardless, I don't think that it's a big deal either way, and I have a feeling most of this type of stuff will still reside in FSA. It certainly won't have an effect on me. But I'm sure whatever glorified hall monitor from the LSU administration who made the executive decision to squash this out would have done the same to the trashy skanks from Planned Parenthood.






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jmarto1
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Unconstitutional or not I always felt like FSA worked. I wouldn't want to run into these people while trying to get to campus. On top of that they are going to trash the place up with their handouts. Hopefully they set up on the Q dog's spot of the quad and this gets regulated.





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The Veldt
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I didn't except people to have such a negative reaction to this. I thought this was going to be a positive reaction knowing how libertarian and conservative the poli board can be.
This is PT.

There will always be at least one person who will have a reaction to whatever is posted including this.






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jmarto1
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I guess if your parents pay long enough you will eventually get it done.





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The Veldt
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I guess if your parents pay long enough you will eventually get it done.
I agree with this.






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asurob1
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No one wants anti- abortion fliers handed out all over campus.


this.

People just want to go to class...

...and not have people in their face about shite they could care less about.

Like I said, that's the problem with guys like you...you think everyone wants to hear your message.

They don't.






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