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re: Pelicans, Kings, and Blazers agree to Tyreke Evans/Withey trade

Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Puddinhead
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
4299 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:24 am to
So whether we're looking to sign him as a SG or a SF is a very huge deal. I really want to know what the plan is.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:25 am to
Gordon's career numbers are better though


That's the reason I'm not a huge fan of trading him before the season though. I want to see what he can do with a full healthy off-season and more talent around him
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63441 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:25 am to
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In the karaoke thread that got anchored


As a quick aside, there's now actually someone paying enough attention to this board to anchor a thread? Damn, how times have changed.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:25 am to
According to a tweet last night, not sure how accurate it was, Tyreke doesn't want to play SF and won't sign anywhere they want him to play that position for any amount of money
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:26 am to
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But I think pretty much everyone will agree that a pairing of Tyreke and Iguodala would be a bad one.


Spacing isn't only created by shooting 3s. You just have to be a threat to score, and both Iggy and Evans are legit scoring threats that the defense has to respect unlike Aminu. And while Evans may have only shot 33% from 3, that was a huge improvement for him. If he keeps improving he'll have matched Vasquez in going from bad to passable at 3 pointers. I'm not a huge Evans fan, but I think I see where Demps is trying to go. Defense first and enough versatility on offense that you always have a mismatch somewhere.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115469 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:26 am to
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According to a tweet last night, not sure how accurate it was, Tyreke doesn't want to play SF and won't sign anywhere they want him to play that position for any amount of money




Tyreke agrees with me.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94846 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:26 am to
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That's the reason I'm not a huge fan of trading him before the season though. I want to see what he can do with a full healthy off-season and more talent around him


That's a 50-50 proposition for me.


I'd like to see what he can do if he's healthy, but at the same time he can only be trotted out there for so long before bad productions or injuries kill most remaining trade possibilities.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:27 am to
Evans and Webster could pair together fairly well.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115469 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:27 am to
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Spacing isn't only created by shooting 3s. You just have to be a threat to score, and both Iggy and Evans are legit scoring threats that the defense has to respect unlike Aminu. And while Evans may have only shot 33% from 3, that was a huge improvement for him. If he keeps improving he'll have matched Vasquez in going from bad to passable at 3 pointers. I'm not a huge Evans fan, but I think I see where Demps is trying to go. Defense first and enough versatility on offense that you always have a mismatch somewhere.



You cannot possibly argue that that would be a good pairing man. Very similar players in all respects, neither of whom can hit a jumper with any consistency. You'll never sell me on that pair, ever. Don't try.

I could live with Gordon/Evans.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:27 am to
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According to a tweet last night, not sure how accurate it was, Tyreke doesn't want to play SF and won't sign anywhere they want him to play that position for any amount of money


I am a big fan of Evans but if this tweet is true, it'd be a pretty big bummer. I'd have serious concerns about his ability to come in here and be willing to improve his game the way the coaches want.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:27 am to
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not sure how accurate it was, Tyreke doesn't want to play SF and won't sign anywhere they want him to play that position for any amount of money


That seems reasonable and came from a decent source. If we're still linked to Tyreke after today I'd say Demps is planning/hoping to move Gordon.
Posted by macatak911
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11072 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:28 am to
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63441 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:28 am to
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I'd like to see what he can do if he's healthy, but at the same time he can only be trotted out there for so long before bad productions or injuries kill most remaining trade possibilities.


It could also be that Monty and Dell have been planning on getting rid of him all along. Now is as good a time as any rather than wasting half a season.
Posted by Puddinhead
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
4299 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:28 am to
I'd rather keep Gordon than have Evans. I'm not thrilled with this.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115469 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:30 am to
If they are getting Tyreke at the 2 and moving EG, then they have to get somebody that can knock down a jumper with consistency at the 3, even if its a bench guy that gets a lot of minutes.

Use the savings from Tyreke over Gordon (I assume he'll sign for several million less than Gordon) to get one main guy and then 2 bench guys, like Copeland and Webster.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40925 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:30 am to
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As a quick aside, there's now actually someone paying enough attention to this board to anchor a thread? Damn, how times have changed.



yet they don't pay attention to any of my RA requests to unsticky certain threads and sticky others.
Posted by macatak911
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11072 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:30 am to
Yeah like I said last night. I'd be pissed if eg is involved in a sign and trade for Evans.

I could live with signing Evans and sign and trading for iggy,
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:31 am to
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neither of whom can hit a jumper with any consistency.


Greivis Vasquez 3 Point %
29
31
34.2 (was as high as 37 before he got injured and hit the wall)

Tyreke

29
20
33.8

I'm not saying he'll keep improving, but if he does that changes your argument against him.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:32 am to
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Gordon's career numbers are better though



EG: 18/2.5/3.3 on 44.3% shooting. Averages 52 games/season. 15.8 PER

TE: 17.5/4.8/4.8 on 44.9% shooting. Averages 64 games/season 16.9 PER


Gordon is a much better 3 pt shooter though, and thus has much better advanced shooting stats than Evans.


I still want to see what a healthy Gordon can do with our current lineup + an SF. However, I wouldn't bitch and moan if we did this and dumped EG.


Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63441 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:32 am to
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Use the savings from Tyreke over Gordon (I assume he'll sign for several million less than Gordon) to get one main guy and then 2 bench guys, like Copeland and Webster.



I can almost guarantee that if they dump Gordon and sign Tyreke that they're going to sign another shooter or two. My opinion at least.
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