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Kay
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Brave men. Horrible story, utmost respect.






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HBR
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Awful





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LSUintheNW
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there. Do you have fire problems West of the Cascades?


Not yet, but it happens. The e heat is drying everything out. we didn't have much snow or rain this year either.






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dnm3305
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19 American heroes just died and the first thing you think about is Obama?


Unfortunately, it's true. This will be ammo for Obama, and you know it.






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Captain Crown
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Prayers with the families.





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greenwave
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Unfortunately, it's true. This will be ammo for Obama, and you know it.








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duggieblue
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RIP brave people!!!





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hottub
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Very sad situation.

Years of not allowing timber companies harvest large areas of timber and 50 years of Smokey the Bear propaganda has lead us to this.

Fire is a crucial piece to forest surviving.






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lsunurse
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Years of not allowing timber companies harvest large areas of timber and 50 years of Smokey the Bear propaganda has lead us to this. Fire is a crucial piece to forest surviving.



What are you talking about?








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CAD703X
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The fire has forced the closure of parts of state Route 89. It was zero percent contained late Sunday.
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Years of not allowing timber companies harvest large areas of timber and 50 years of Smokey the Bear propaganda has lead us to this. Fire is a crucial piece to forest surviving.




What are you talking about?


preventable fires if the brush could be removed and trees harvested



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lsunurse
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I know they do planned out fires out there to help prevent wildfires fwiw.





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CAD703X
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Government meddling

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National Public Radio reports today on how the federal government’s “takeover” of America’s forests with the creation of the U.S. Forest Service in 1905 has led to more, not fewer, forest fires in the long run. Among fire historians it’s known as the “Smokey Bear Effect,” thus the title of the segment “How The Smokey Bear Effect Led To Raging Wildfires,”


you know they fricked up when NPR is on the story






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lsunurse
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Gotcha, never read about that before. Makes sense.





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lsu480
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Must have been a real life Hell for it not to protect them....



I have heard that a lot of people bail out of these once they are in the middle of the fire. Basically it gets so hot in them that they panic and try to run out of them since it feels like you are being cooked alive in them. I couldn't even imagine the claustrophobia that you would feel in that thing.






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lsunurse
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Did you watch the video in the link I posted?



Showed them doing a drill by getting in those. I couldn't even imagine just laying in one of those.






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ksayetiger
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My grandparents lived in prescott. One year a fire was racing down the next door mountain at their house, and they were unable to leave bc my papa had just had brain surgery. They prayed for what they thought was the last time when the wind shifted and their neighborhood was surprisingly spared. They said that was the scariest thingthey ever witnessed.

Prayers to the firefighters and families






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lsu480
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No I didn't see it but one of my friends used to be a chainsaw guys during those forest fires and a couple of guys died on his crew because they bailed out of the safety tents. They might have died if they stayed in but I guess we will never know.





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Jim Rockford
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Years of not allowing timber companies harvest large areas of timber and 50 years of Smokey the Bear propaganda has lead us to this. Fire is a crucial piece to forest surviving.


This was a brush fire, not a forest fire, and it wasn't on federal land.

ETA: And fire is part of the ecosystem. Species like Ponderosa Pines require the heat of fire for their seeds to germinate. The best thing to do is let fires burn. Unfortunately, so many people have moved into the areas with high fire risk, that it's politically unfeasible. When it's tried, there's a huge outcry, like with the Yellowstone fires of the nineties. It was a natural event, but the horrific-looking scenes on TV got people up in arms about the "let it burn" policy.



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hottub
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This was a brush fire, not a forest fire, and it wasn't on federal land.


I know but so many of these areas have tremendous amounts of undergrowth because of our no forest fires policy the last 50 years.






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TJGator1215
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That sucks. RIP.





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