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Best soccer team in the world?
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:28 pm
Is anyone aware of a list that combines club and national teams? Anyone care to take a stab at it? I was just watching Univision sports and the said that Spain is a perfect combination of Barcelona up front and Real Madrid at the back. Could Spain win a champions league or would they be favored against teams that play together year round?
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:51 pm to Babychiva
Don't think such a list exists because it is pure speculation.
However, I would say that Barcelona is better than Spain though because they have Messi. Alves is better than Arbeloa, and while Ramos is better than Puyol or Mascherano and Iker is better than Valdes, that isn't enough to offset the greatness of Lionel. And now they've got Neymar, too...
However, I would say that Barcelona is better than Spain though because they have Messi. Alves is better than Arbeloa, and while Ramos is better than Puyol or Mascherano and Iker is better than Valdes, that isn't enough to offset the greatness of Lionel. And now they've got Neymar, too...
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:58 pm to Keys Open Doors
The answer is bayern munich
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:00 pm to hendersonshands
Can't argue with that after this year's Champions League.
I guess the argument is Spain vs Bayern Munich. Again, I'd take Bayern Munich. So much more flexibility with club sides
I guess the argument is Spain vs Bayern Munich. Again, I'd take Bayern Munich. So much more flexibility with club sides
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:02 pm to Babychiva
The best club teams will almost always beat the best international teams. Spain might be the exception though, who really knows.
The best club in the world right now is Bayern Munich. My top five would look like this:
1. Bayern Munich
2. Barcelona
3. Manchester United
4. Real Madrid
5. Chelsea
The best club in the world right now is Bayern Munich. My top five would look like this:
1. Bayern Munich
2. Barcelona
3. Manchester United
4. Real Madrid
5. Chelsea
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:05 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
you´ve got three and four wrong.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:06 pm to hendersonshands
They can be measured by combined player values using Transfermarkt.co.uk.
Top Clubs:
Barcelona - 484.264.000 £
Real Madrid - 473.440.000 £
Man Utd - 390.940.000 £
Man City - 382.580.000 £
Bayern Munich - 380.116.000 £
Chelsea - 362.780.000 £
Top Countries:
Spain - 530.000.000 £
Argentina - 366.916.000 £
Brazil - 359.040.000 £
Italy - 306.240.000 £
Belgium - 305.360.000 £
ETA: Somehow Belgium is worth 305M and The Netherlands is worth 160M.
Top Clubs:
Barcelona - 484.264.000 £
Real Madrid - 473.440.000 £
Man Utd - 390.940.000 £
Man City - 382.580.000 £
Bayern Munich - 380.116.000 £
Chelsea - 362.780.000 £
Top Countries:
Spain - 530.000.000 £
Argentina - 366.916.000 £
Brazil - 359.040.000 £
Italy - 306.240.000 £
Belgium - 305.360.000 £
ETA: Somehow Belgium is worth 305M and The Netherlands is worth 160M.
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:09 pm to Dandy Lion
Nah. I'm talking current standings. Right now Madrid have no manager and are on the verge of a player-exodus.
RM hires Ancelotti and buys any combination of Suarez, Bale and Isco and I will switch #3 and #4.
RM hires Ancelotti and buys any combination of Suarez, Bale and Isco and I will switch #3 and #4.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:09 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
I don't rate Man U as highly as you right now. I don't think they're better than Juventus.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:13 pm to hendersonshands
I would disagree, though I undoubtedly watched Juventus the least amount last season out of any team that would make my top 10.
I really only watched them in the CL, when they played Napoli and when they played Roma.
I really only watched them in the CL, when they played Napoli and when they played Roma.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:26 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
I'm just not sure what to make of Man U right now. I'm not sure how good Moyes will be. Their best player is pushing 30, Rooney may be on the way out. Their defense is old. They will benefit a lot from Thiago if they get him but they still need another holding midfielder. We'll see though.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:30 pm to Babychiva
I'd put at least 6 club teams ahead of Spain right now.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:36 pm to Xenophon
Tottenham getting Paulinho is YUGE
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:38 pm to Xenophon
Ok so when do we see a national team? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20? Historically I would say national teams have been stronger than club teams but I agree this has changed in the past 15 years.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:41 pm to hendersonshands
Yeah, I would put United behind Juve right now.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:42 pm to hendersonshands
I don't think they will change too much this season. They will be very good next season, and they are my title favorites. I don't think Moyes' test will really manifest itself until the third or fourth season. The squad is set at least until then, unless he makes some big changes.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:46 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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I don't think Moyes' test will really manifest itself until the third or fourth season. The squad is set at least until then, unless he makes some big changes.
Great assessment. I wholeheartedly agree.
Need to start gradually making changes now...Thiago and a young holding midfielder would be a great first step. Another LB (not sold on Buttner there), another rotation option at striker, etc. down the road...
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:59 pm to WarSlamEagle
Yea, a couple holding mids are certainly needed, as well as a young forward. Zaha is a fresh face, though I don't rate him too highly..yet. I've been impressed with Buttner the few times I've seen him. What about CB? Is that where Phil Jones' future is, or will he play as a defensive midfielder?
Sir Alex's greatest attribute, as everyone knows, was being able to build squads that would compete for years. And then he was always able to transition to the next generation literally seamlessly. That's where Moyes' biggest challenge will be in my opinion (going out on a limb I know).
Sir Alex's greatest attribute, as everyone knows, was being able to build squads that would compete for years. And then he was always able to transition to the next generation literally seamlessly. That's where Moyes' biggest challenge will be in my opinion (going out on a limb I know).
Posted on 6/25/13 at 12:31 am to LSUSOBEAST1
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Yea, a couple holding mids are certainly needed, as well as a young forward. Zaha is a fresh face, though I don't rate him too highly..yet.
To be honest, I haven't watched Zaha play a lot. Don't really know what to make of him...know he's got a lot of hype.
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I've been impressed with Buttner the few times I've seen him.
Jury's still out on him defensively for me. I've heard rumblings that he'd rather play midfield, since that's his old position, but nothing concrete. The couple of times we ran a 3 back this season, he did well at left mid.
Granted, he's got time to improve and Evra's not done yet. I wouldn't be very comfortable with him back there if Evra went down tomorrow.
Fabio is also an option. Would be nice to see him turn out as well as his twin brother. Big fan of Rafael.
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What about CB? Is that where Phil Jones' future is, or will he play as a defensive midfielder?
Smalling and Jonny Evans, who shockingly had a really good year, are great options behind Vidic and Ferdinand for the next year or so. Maybe add another young player there? I like Jones better in a midfield role, think that's where he'll eventually be. He can provide emergency cover at CB.
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Sir Alex's greatest attribute, as everyone knows, was being able to build squads that would compete for years. And then he was always able to transition to the next generation literally seamlessly. That's where Moyes' biggest challenge will be in my opinion (going out on a limb I know).
And Moyes has never had to do that. No one knows how good his long-term squad building is at this moment...but his other attributes are why I'm excited he's our new manager.
Posted on 6/25/13 at 12:47 am to WarSlamEagle
#1 Arsenal Football Club
...although I may be biased.
...although I may be biased.
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