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re: And So It Begins: Bitcoins seized by DEA
Posted on 6/24/13 at 5:26 pm to Poodlebrain
Posted on 6/24/13 at 5:26 pm to Poodlebrain
quote:
But to get back on topic, I wonder what Wiki and Josh will have to say on the subject?
just another humorous thread where Team Luddite gets boners due to a stiff breeze.
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 5:30 pm to Broke
quote:
But they said, completely anonymous dammit.
link?
Broke, you're better than this. Please don't become like LSURussian and start making up lies.
From the second thread I ever started about bitcoin back in October of 2012, I have been referring to it as "mostly anonymous" or "pseudonymous."
Please forgive me for the first thread I started on it where I said it was anonymous.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 5:30 pm to Broke
quote:
They've abandoned a lot of their claims.
such as?
Posted on 6/24/13 at 5:37 pm to LSURussian
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Is so, he may have gotten his jimmies rustled.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 5:40 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I'm surprised you luddites didn't post this bit of news:
Bitcoin Foundation Receives Cease And Desist Order From California
Why are governments so stupid?
Bitcoin Foundation Receives Cease And Desist Order From California
quote:
California’s Department of Financial Institutions decided to issue a cease and desist warning to conference organizer Bitcoin Foundation for allegedly engaging in the business of money transmission without a license or proper authorization.
If found to be in violation of California Financial Code, penalties can be severe ranging from $1,000 to $2,500 per violation per day plus criminal prosecution which could result in fines and/or imprisonment. Additionally, it is a felony violation of federal law to engage in the business of money transmission without the appropriate state license or failure to register with the U.S. Treasury Department. Convictions under the federal statute are punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
quote:
The Bitcoin Foundation is a nonprofit corporation registered in Washington, D.C. with mailing address in Seattle, WA. As a nonprofit, its mission is to standardize and promote the open source Bitcoin protocol and it receives generous support from individuals and corporations to advance those objectives. The foundation also boasts significant international membership.
One activity that the foundation does not engage in is the owning, controlling, or conducting of money transmission business. Furthermore, that activity would also be against the original charter of the foundation.
Why are governments so stupid?
Posted on 6/24/13 at 5:45 pm to WikiTiger
quote:
I'm surprised you luddites didn't post this bit of news:
Bitcoin Foundation Receives Cease And Desist Order From California
Because it's California, who gives a shite
Posted on 6/24/13 at 6:46 pm to gizmoflak
Posted on 6/24/13 at 7:18 pm to WikiTiger
quote:
From the second thread I ever started about bitcoin back in October of 2012, I have been referring to it as "mostly anonymous" or "pseudonymous."
Oh, really? Then who used your screen name to post the following statements claiming a person can remain anonymous using bitcoin? Not "mostly anonymous" but "anonymous."
quote:Posted on 6/16/13
you have the ability to remain anonymous when using bitcoins to purchase any kind of content that can be delivered digitally.
quote:Also posted on 6/16/13
if proper steps are taken, it can be used anonymously
quote:April, 2013
by placing a bet anonymously on a bitcoin gambling site
quote:April, 2013
there is immense value in the ability to safely, securely, and instantly send money directly to anyone, anywhere without going through a third party, without paying high fees, and with the ability to do it anonymously.
quote:December
If a person or business had the motivation and know-how then yes, they could stay anonymous.
There were literally dozens of other posts by you where you wrote a person can remain anonymous if he uses bitcoin. Not "mostly anonymous" nor your incorrect use of the the word "pseudonymous."
Just "anonymous."
And you have the nerve to call me a liar? Lying is ALL you do.
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 6/24/13 at 7:32 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 6/24/13 at 7:34 pm to LSURussian
Instant replay proves that Wiki blew that call.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 7:38 pm to Poodlebrain
He obviously forgot that even a luddite can use the TD.com search function.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:17 pm to LSURussian
Doesn't look like he ever said bitcoins are intrinsically anonymous. All Wiki said or implied was that bitcoinistas have the ability to remain anonymous if certain measures are taken to protect their identities.
I'll hang up and wait to hear how I'm wrong.
I'll hang up and wait to hear how I'm wrong.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:27 pm to gizmoflak
quote:
Doesn't look like he ever said bitcoins are intrinsically anonymous
quote:
From the second thread I ever started about bitcoin back in October of 2012, I have been referring to it as "mostly anonymous" or "pseudonymous." Please forgive me for the first thread I started on it where I said it was anonymous.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:30 pm to gizmoflak
gizmo, you forget that lsurussian is so stupid that he takes everything 100% literally. when debating with him you have to spell everything out like he's 5 years old. that's why I no longer respond to him. I'm glad intelligent people like yourself can read my quotes that he posted and understand what was actually said
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:35 pm to WikiTiger
You no longer respond to me because I have bitch-slapped you every time you lie, which I have caught you doing repeatedly, just as you did in this thread.
Have you written numerous times within the last 6 months that a bitcoin user can remain anonymous if he uses bitcoins?
Yes or no.
Yes, you have. Deny THAT, liar.
Have you written numerous times within the last 6 months that a bitcoin user can remain anonymous if he uses bitcoins?
Yes or no.
Yes, you have. Deny THAT, liar.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:37 pm to LSURussian
Since Wiki won't respond to Russian
Have you written numerous times within the last 6 months that a bitcoin user can remain anonymous if he uses bitcoins?
Yes or no?
Have you written numerous times within the last 6 months that a bitcoin user can remain anonymous if he uses bitcoins?
Yes or no?
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:45 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:49 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:
Since Wiki won't respond to Russian
Have you written numerous times within the last 6 months that a bitcoin user can remain anonymous if he uses bitcoins?
Yes or no?
As Wiki's proxy, I'll take a stab at an answer:
Doesn't look like he ever said bitcoins are intrinsically anonymous (ok, he said it once, in his very first bitcoin thread ... he gets a mulligan). All Wiki has said or implied is that bitcoinistas have the ability to remain anonymous IF certain measures are taken to protect their identities.
Does that answer the burning question?
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:50 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I'll just jump in to say that taking Wiki at his word he never claimed (or intended to claim) that bitcoin had the virtue of anonymity, that leaves a very major question.
What's the appeal? It can be transferred electronically to any point on the globe just like the dollar, it can be tracked just like the dollar and it obviously isn't safe from any governmental interference just like the dollar. Plus, not everywhere accepts it as a form of payment, which is very markedly unlike the dollar.
I can certainly see the prospective appeal of a bitcoin future in a world without borders sort of way but nobody has really laid out a practical framework how we get to there from here, beyond a nebulous confidence that "eventually bitcoin or somebody else will figure it out".
What's the appeal? It can be transferred electronically to any point on the globe just like the dollar, it can be tracked just like the dollar and it obviously isn't safe from any governmental interference just like the dollar. Plus, not everywhere accepts it as a form of payment, which is very markedly unlike the dollar.
I can certainly see the prospective appeal of a bitcoin future in a world without borders sort of way but nobody has really laid out a practical framework how we get to there from here, beyond a nebulous confidence that "eventually bitcoin or somebody else will figure it out".
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:53 pm to gizmoflak
No.
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