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401k, IRA and Roth IRA
Posted on 5/26/13 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 5/26/13 at 10:45 pm
Can one invest in all 3? Example: 401k through work program (Fidelity) and a separate traditional and Roth IRA with let's say Vanguard.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 11:31 pm to Paul Allen
Yes.
But the 5500 contribution limit applies to both the Roth and IRA combined.
And generally speaking, it's not in your best interest to contribute to both simultaneously.
But the 5500 contribution limit applies to both the Roth and IRA combined.
And generally speaking, it's not in your best interest to contribute to both simultaneously.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 11:32 pm to Volvagia
quote:Really.. Didn't know that
But the 5500 contribution limit applies to both the Roth and IRA combined.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 11:48 pm to Paul Allen
One can invest in all three, yes. But the total contributed to the Roth and traditional IRA combined cannot exceed a certain amount. Last year that was $5000. Most people pick either the Roth or the traditional and not both.
The 401(k) is unrelated to the IRA (Roth or traditional), you can do either or both.
The 401(k) is unrelated to the IRA (Roth or traditional), you can do either or both.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 8:53 am to foshizzle
Ok, that sounds good. Thanks
Posted on 5/27/13 at 2:51 pm to Volvagia
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And generally speaking, it's not in your best interest to contribute to both simultaneously.
Why?
Posted on 5/27/13 at 3:31 pm to Dead Mike
what are the reasons to pick a roth over a traditional ira?
i understand, i think, that the traditional ira is not pre taxed, and the roth is taxed as money goes in
i understand, i think, that the traditional ira is not pre taxed, and the roth is taxed as money goes in
Posted on 5/27/13 at 5:22 pm to Dead Mike
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Why?
Because one is best used when you expect taxes to be higher in retirement than now, and the other the opposite.
There is a benefit in tax diversification, but it's best attained at different times.
So typically Roth is better early career, traditional later.
This post was edited on 5/27/13 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 5/27/13 at 6:28 pm to HailToTheChiz
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what are the reasons to pick a roth over a traditional ira?
Because the roth grows tax free and distributions aren't taxed.
Let's say you have $1 million to live on in retirement. You pull $50000 /year off to live on. If you pull from a roth, you get all of that $50K tax free., with a traditional, you pay taxes on the $50K.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 8:52 pm to Vols&Shaft83
so the decision between a roth and ira is basically whether you think taxes will be lower or higher by the time you retire?
Posted on 5/27/13 at 9:00 pm to HailToTheChiz
is the limit $5,000 or $5,500?
Posted on 5/27/13 at 9:01 pm to yellowtiger
5500 in 2013
Increasing in increments of 500 due to inflation
Increasing in increments of 500 due to inflation
Posted on 5/27/13 at 9:03 pm to HailToTheChiz
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so the decision between a roth and ira is basically whether you think taxes will be lower or higher by the time you retire?
That's a way of looking at it. But I do both, and I recommend doing both. I recommend the Roth first because it has other advantages such as being able to withdraw contributions before retirement without penalty.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 10:03 pm to HailToTheChiz
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so the decision between a roth and ira is basically whether you think taxes will be lower or higher by the time you retire?
There's limits to a Roth as well. If you anticipate earning over the limit in the near future, contribute the max now.
I think it's $173,000 for joint file, $110,000 for single.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 10:22 pm to dewster
Oh ok so the Roth account itself has a max before you have to withdraw as well as a Mac contribution to it per year
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