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re: SEC schedule argument...

Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:47 am to
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:47 am to
Then do what Spurrier suggested, only divisional games count for a berth in the SECCG
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:52 am to
Last year LSU Bama and aTm had a split divisional record. Alabama was higher ranked having only lost to aTm thus they would have gotten in regardless.

I think a tiered system would be interesting, but you would probably have to not play a team or two from your own division to really make it work.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26593 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:55 am to
LSU and UF are not alone this year though. UGA has now joined the party as they have to play 3 possibly top 15 teams in the first four games. But I agree that SC getting either Bama or A&M could have at least leveled the field a little bit more. I think Texas A&M should make Texas their mainstay OOC ival like UF does FSU.

People from other conferences usually like to point at SEC OOC games but LSU always gets at least 2 competent FBS teams to play against. Hsll to even out when they schedule shite like this I wouldn't mind 3 FCS games (only when they give us a ridiculous conference schedule).
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6826 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:18 am to
Only counting division record solves all problems, except for Bama, since their losses are almost always divisional.
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:30 am to
Only true way to solve the problem is to only count your divisional wins. Win your division and you go to Atlanta. It really is that simple.
Posted by toughcrittercrumb
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
2138 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:44 am to
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Then do what Spurrier suggested, only divisional games count for a berth in the SECCG


When Spurrier first said this I disagreed. But I kind of see his point now. The scheduling is atrocious. Just look at who gets the advantage with byes and timing of big games.

Bama has an early game against ATM and a late game against LSU; both with bye weeks before them.

ATM plays Bama early but without a bye week. And they fortunately get a bye week before playing LSU and Ole Miss.

LSU plays ATM and Bama late with bye weeks before each game.

Toughest SEC games
ATM: Bama, LSU, Ole Miss
Bama: ATM, LSU, Ole Miss
LSU: Bama, ATM, Ole Miss, UGA, UF
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 10:47 am
Posted by toughcrittercrumb
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
2138 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:50 am to
How do I link a pdf? I have the helmet schedule on my desktop.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:52 am to
It's hard to argue that Bama somehow benefitted from an easier schedule and doesn't deserve the SEC title when Bama actually beats LSU on the field. Thus, in order for the scheduling argument to have any legitimacy, LSU at least needs to beat the Tide this season.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 10:53 am
Posted by DaveDog
Member since Nov 2009
536 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Some people say just beat the teams on you schedule and you dont have anything to cry about. I wouldn't mind LSU playing UF, USC, and UGA if the other teams that are contending for the SEC champion play them too. But if the SEC champion is suppose to be the best team in the league than they should have had to face the same rigorous schedule as their biggest in conference challenger. Apples to apples. Oranges to oranges.



Bama fans don't care about being the best team...they care about getting the trophy, the title, and the revenue that comes with those things.

Their fans have no dignity or respect for the game.
Posted by DaveDog
Member since Nov 2009
536 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:56 am to
quote:

It's hard to argue that Bama somehow benefitted from an easier schedule and doesn't deserve the SEC title when Bama actually beats LSU on the field. Thus, in order for the scheduling argument to have any legitimacy, LSU at least needs to beat the Tide this season.



Possibly twice...yes, this is now reality, and it's disgraceful to the sport and to the spirit of competition, in general.
Posted by toughcrittercrumb
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
2138 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 12:21 pm to
They do benefit. The last time Bama had to play two tough opponents in the same year, they ended the season with a 9-3 record. One of those losses came to USC. Plus the wear on your starters when LSU has to go toe-2-toe with UF and USC the whole game, it will have effects. Alleva and Miles know this. That's why they are pushing for a more balanced schedule.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22751 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 12:38 pm to
Really if they got rid of the permanent and let it freely rotate I would be ok with it. This would also allow for more match ups with the other division. The permanent can create an advantage and also the bs bridge scheduling did also.

Also LSU played Florida, South Carolina, Texas A&M, Alabama, and Miss St. over roughly a month period. That is crazy considering those teams finished 54-12 combined.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 12:43 pm
Posted by skullopener
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
2182 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 2:16 pm to
yawwnnnnnn.....

Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5014 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 2:18 pm to
Bama schedule

Date Opponent / Event Location Time / Result

08/31/13 vs. Virginia Tech TV Atlanta, Ga. 4:30 p.m. CT
09/14/13 at Texas A&M * College Station, Texas TBA
09/21/13 vs. Colorado State Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA
09/28/13 vs. Ole Miss * Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA
10/05/13 vs. Georgia State Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA
10/12/13 at Kentucky * Lexington, Ky. TBA
10/19/13 vs. Arkansas * Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA
10/26/13 vs. Tennessee * Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA
11/09/13 vs. LSU * Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA
11/16/13 at Mississippi State * Starkville,Ms. TBA
11/23/13 vs. Chattanooga Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA
11/30/13 at Auburn * Auburn, Ala. TBA


Bama has 2 games to get up for and they have bye weeks before both games. tOSU of the south.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26593 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

It's hard to argue that Bama somehow benefitted from an easier schedule and doesn't deserve the SEC title when Bama actually beats LSU on the field. Thus, in order for the scheduling argument to have any legitimacy, LSU at least needs to beat the Tide this season.


LSU won 10 and 11 and Bama won 11 and 12. Bama needed a backdoor just to get into the 11 win. If Miles didn't open his bag of tricks last year, we would have been 3 consecutive season wins.
Posted by LSUMurple
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2011
907 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 2:45 pm to
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toughcrittercrumb


crittercrumb gonna crittercrumb

:beatdeadhorse:
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 2:50 pm to
SEC SCHEDULE ARGUMENT SOLVED!

Don't count the permanent opponent games for divisional titles.

And when you go to a nine game schedule, you will still have 8 games to determine divisional titles.

You're Welcome!
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26593 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

SEC SCHEDULE ARGUMENT SOLVED!

Don't count the permanent opponent games for divisional titles.

And when you go to a nine game schedule, you will still have 8 games to determine divisional titles.

You're Welcome!


We've already brought up counting only divisional games. You want us to go to a 9 game schedule so OSU doesn't have competition in the CFP.

After OSU and Michigan, the Big Ten is the Big Ton as in "big ton of shite". We(SEC) have 6 teams that could match up with any top 2 teams in any conference.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68313 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:22 pm to
Its not sos, its just rotating the teams. shite id rather go to athens every other year than gainesville.

Thats my gripe, i want to travel to other cities more than once a decade.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30832 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 4:50 pm to
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