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re: Star Trek into Darkness: Discussion and SPOILERS thread

Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:16 am to
Posted by sbr2
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Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:49 am to
so is Kahn dead or just frozen like Han Solo?
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:50 am to
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frozen
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:50 am to
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so is Kahn dead or just frozen like Han Solo?



i saw NO carbonite sir
Posted by jacks40
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:58 am to
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What I wanna know is what was the admiral like in prime. Lived out his days with warmongering blue balls?


There was still a war with the Klingons. He just didnt have a super ship
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:07 am to
Not really.

Organians stopped that shite with the quickness.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:23 am to
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:24 am to
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But it does beg the question as to why Khan prime didn't use his blood to revive his wife.



Why wouldn't Kirk turn into a badass? If the blood transfusion is strong enough to revive him, shouldn't he become more of a bad-arse? It was hinted at the end, but I guess they didn't want to go into it.

Also Kirk kicking arse would kind of go against the entire fighting style that is "Kirk".
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:55 am to
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But it does beg the question as to why Khan prime didn't use his blood to revive his wife.


Better question: Why did any of the members of Kahn Prime's crew die in the Prime universe (including his wife) if their blood has regenerative properties?

Surely an electrical burn from a console blowing up wouldn't kill a genetically engineered superhuman.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 12:26 pm to
Well they were a lot older at that point but yeah pretty terrible oversight.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 1:16 pm to
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Surely an electrical burn from a console blowing up


the deadliest catch of space travel
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 1:47 pm to
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Better question: Why did any of the members of Kahn Prime's crew die in the Prime universe (including his wife) if their blood has regenerative properties?

Surely an electrical burn from a console blowing up wouldn't kill a genetically engineered superhuman.


Most of his crew died on Ceta Alpha V so, besides the ones that were killed by eels, they probably died of thirst, exposure and/or starvation. Not much super blood can do about any of those.

For the ones killed on the Reliant, they were either blasted out into space or took enough trauma from the explosions that even their super blood couldn't heal them fast enough. At the end of the original Star Trek II, Khan took enough punishment that even his healing powers wouldn't have been able to keep up.

Or maybe Khan was the only one with the real premium stuff. Maybe he was superhuman even by superhuman standards.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 2:25 pm to
Which revelation is worse: Khan's super blood or mitechlorians?
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 2:38 pm to
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Which revelation is worse: Khan's super blood or mitechlorians?


and not even close.


Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 2:39 pm to
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mitechlorians


Winner.

You can use the Force because you are infested with blood-borne parasites? Ewwwwwwwww.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 2:47 pm to
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mitechlorians


so awful
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:00 pm to
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Which revelation is worse: Khan's super blood or mitechlorians?


By far. The Force went from being "the energy that binds us all" or something like that, and presumably something that we could have theoretically attune with, to the side effect of a symbiotic relationship with a blood disease that only a select few in the entire galaxy had.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:08 pm to
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side effect of a symbiotic relationship with a blood disease that only a select few in the entire galaxy had.


it makes me wonder if antibiotics would be enough to defeat the jedi
Posted by Duzz
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 6:10 pm to
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What I wanna know is what was the admiral like in prime.

Lived out his days with warmongering blue balls?


Speculation. We see him publicly admit to Section 31..which is like the treasonous group of the Federation. Federation don't claim them and they are ok with that.

In the original universe, Section 31 had to go into hiding from it's original inception.

The attacked by Nero let all the bad elements of the Federation out.

I will say the Federation looks to be on track to be technologically superior to their original time line parts.

The vengeance would probably get incorporated somehow into the new universe.

Also despite spocks saying he would not like to spoil the future so to speak.

He had to have warn them about the Borg and the Dominion. If there were ever two deadlier enemies to the federation as a whole that would be them.

Also did anyone noticed the Enterprise did not fire a single shot the entire movie?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 6:17 pm to
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