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re: Star Trek into Darkness: Discussion and SPOILERS thread

Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:00 pm to
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its the same reason Superman sucks, because his only weakness is kryptonite


im just fricking with you with that last one




The Vengeance was bad-arse!
Posted by LE610N
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:06 pm to
The vengeance was cool. But the racial undertones were very apparent. Bigger, faster, stronger, black ship that runs on minimum wag...I mean crew. Picking on the little white ship.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:06 pm to
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also flying around in the most bad arse ship in the galaxy would probably make for pretty boring movies in the future if there's nobody that can defeat them


A powerful and near invincible hero requires a powerful and near invincible villain and that would equal awesomeness and a galaxy shattering fight. Think about it.

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its the same reason Superman sucks, because his only weakness is kryptonite

im just fricking with you with that last one




I was about to go in fanboy rage.

Next month's man of steel has a villain that's more than capable of taking Supes to the woodshed in General Zod. Kinda like what I was talking about after the first quote.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:07 pm to
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The vengeance was cool. But the racial undertones were very apparent. Bigger, faster, stronger, black ship that runs on minimum wag...I mean crew. Picking on the little white ship


Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:07 pm to
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The vengeance was cool. But the racial undertones were very apparent. Bigger, faster, stronger, black ship that runs on minimum wag...I mean crew. Picking on the little white ship.


And who still won?
Posted by LE610N
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:10 pm to
Whitey! Boom!
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:14 pm to
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The vengeance was cool. But the racial undertones were very apparent. Bigger, faster, stronger, black ship that runs on minimum wag...I mean crew. Picking on the little white ship.



is this why Uhura had the worst lines?
Posted by LE610N
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:17 pm to
Does make a good balance. Big black ship, Attractive black actress given a thankless role.
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 3:31 pm to
The cast's chemistry is what made TOS and in my opinion this cast is well on its way to doing the same. That was my biggest question mark going into the second movie.
Posted by Bankshot
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 5:59 pm to
Overall, I liked the film. The cast was great and I don't mind them using Khan. But, much of the last 30 minutes was predictable.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:18 pm to
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But, much of the last 30 minutes was predictable.


It was predictable because 2/3rds of it was some kind of almost shot for shot redo of Wrath of Khan
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 7:52 pm to
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Sit back and be entertained and try to enjoy life once in a while.



I wasn't entertained by the first film - after Thor got killed, it was completely "meh".

I just don't have the time to waste on more of this.

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You are a hater. Like many wild eyed fanboys before you who nitpick things to death just because they can.


Not at all - if something is good, I overlook minor, trifling flaws. When the characters are almost all wrong - I don't consider that fact minor or trifling.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 7:58 pm to
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You are a hater. Like many wild eyed fanboys before you who nitpick things to death just because they can.


Nobody in here is bitching about someone using the wrong dialect of klingon or some dipshit stuff like that, but there are real problems with this film at a fundamental level.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 8:57 pm to
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This, but also I wish they built another ship the same size as the Vengeance and called it the enterprise instead at the end of the movie. They really could do some damage in the third movie with a dreadnought class ship. I mean the enterprise is supposed to be the flagship of starfleet and it was absolutely dwarfed by another federation ship. That doesn't feel right to me.


Did you miss that whole speech at the end?


That other ship could only be a flagship of a military armada, not exploration.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 10:27 pm to
Sentrius is either trolling or he has no idea what Star Trek is all about
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:15 am to
my only question is does Kirk have Khan like superpowers now?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:57 am to
No
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:58 am to
But it does beg the question as to why Khan prime didn't use his blood to revive his wife.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:03 am to
It's entirely possible he wasn't aware.

He was probably given a battery of medical tests in the alternative timeline that revealed the regenerative ability.

He had advanced technology acess in the prime timeline for like a week.

Another possibility is that they did not have supplies for safe intravenous therapies.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:04 am to
What I wanna know is what was the admiral like in prime.

Lived out his days with warmongering blue balls?
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 10:05 am
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