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Why you fight back against black bears

Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:07 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:07 pm
and play dead with brown bears....

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A man in northern Ontario has survived a rare, predatory attack by a black bear thanks to the help of two unidentified women who understood the most important thing about such animals:


They can be intimidated by humans.

The Sudsbury Star reported the 400-pound bear -- a black bear bigger than most ever seen in Alaska -- had dragged 40-year-old Joe Azougar out of a remote cabin and was gnawing on his head when two women happened by.

"He was rescued by two Timmins (Ontario) women -- campers who had been driving by on a bush road and heard his screams,'' the Star reported.

"The women, whom police would not identify, were able to scare the bear away and drive the severely injured man to hospital."

Alaska has been witness to similar attacks, some of them now famous. Tourist Darcy Staver was knocked from a rooftop near Glennallen and killed by such a bear in 1992 after her husband went for help. Geologist Cynthia Dusel-Bacon lost both arms after a black bear attacked and tried to eat her in the Alaska Range in 1977. She survived only because she was able to use a radio to call co-workers for help.


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Alaska wildlife biologist John Hechtel, once famously observed, "don't kill; they eat.''


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Azougar, an Internet entrepreneur who moved from the crowded city of Toronto to rural Canada only a month ago, appears to have been just plain lucky that help stumbled by. He told authorities he was having breakfast on the porch of his 8-by-16 foot cabin when the bear approached.

Azougar's German shepherd dog tried to stop the bear, but was killed. Azougar ran into the cabin and slammed the door, but the bear pursued him. It eventually came in through a window, according to reports. "I ran out,'' Azougar said.

That is a bad move, according to authorities on bears, who say the only way to defend yourself against the rare predatory black bear attack is to grab something and fight back.


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Alaska has been witness to similar attacks, some of them now famous. Tourist Darcy Staver was knocked from a rooftop near Glennallen and killed by such a bear in 1992 after her husband went for help. Geologist Cynthia Dusel-Bacon lost both arms after a black bear attacked and tried to eat her in the Alaska Range in 1977. She survived only because she was able to use a radio to call co-workers for help.


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Research by noted Canadian bear scientist Stephen Herrero has documented more than 60 fatal attacks by predatory black bears in North America since 1900. The attacks tend to happen in rural areas, where bears appear to have had little or limited previous contact with humans.

Glennallen fits that description as does Timmins, Ont., an old gold mining district about 400 miles northwest of Ottawa.

Herrero and other authorities advise that if you are approached by a black bear, especially in a rural area, grab the nearest weapon, even a big stick, and prepare to fight like hell.
This post was edited on 5/15/13 at 9:15 pm
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
4085 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:09 pm to
duly noted
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179319 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:11 pm to
Unless in a wma, u must be half eaten before you can hit the bear
Posted by Nascar Fan
Columbia La.
Member since Jul 2011
18588 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:18 pm to
Noted
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:21 pm to
Local girl hit one in the face when it grabbed her dog a couple years ago. I've always wondered if there were truth to idea that you fight black bears and play dead with brownies, but I guess it is true.

Always heard most brown bears attack to protect something, and black bears attack to eat.
Posted by RingLeader
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1111 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:22 pm to
When fishing and hunting in Alaska the guides had us carry bear mace... and a 44 mag for backup. They told us to use them in that order as well.
Posted by Nascar Fan
Columbia La.
Member since Jul 2011
18588 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:23 pm to
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Always heard most brown bears attack to protect something, and black bears attack to eat.

Another reason i don't go nowhere without a gun. Frick getting eat by a critter
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:29 pm to
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When fishing and hunting in Alaska the guides had us carry bear mace... and a 44 mag for backup. They told us to use them in that order as well.




Most bush pilots (who are more survival experts than any other profession) usually carry a shotgun and a large caliber (.44 mag, 10mm or .50 cal) handgun as well a pepper spray. Usually pepper spray is to keep annoying bears away. If they decide to attack it's probably worthless. Just spray a large cloud in front of you and hope it stops him.

Posted by El Josey Wales
Greater Geismar
Member since Nov 2007
22710 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:30 pm to
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Another reason i don't go nowhere without a gun. Frick getting eat by a critter


:kige:
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22804 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:52 pm to
Three years ago we were in northern New Mexico. There were three bear attacks in a month in that area. Due to the dryer than normal winter and summer they had. Bears were hungry I guess.

Do black bears injure more per year than grizzlies?
This post was edited on 5/15/13 at 9:55 pm
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5747 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 9:59 pm to
I would imagine they do because there are more blacks and blacks live around people.

I wonder what it is per capita.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31652 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:01 pm to
I will kick a man bear in the nuts. But does the titty twister work on female bears?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:02 pm to
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Do black bears injure more per year than grizzlies?


There are more black bear attacks, but there are just many more black bears too. Black bears who live close to humans are less likely to attack than bears in more remote areas.

Brown bears are more protective and territorial. Most attacks come from mothers defending cubs or bears protecting food. Black bears that attack are just unpredictable.

This post was edited on 5/15/13 at 10:04 pm
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5747 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:06 pm to
She bear titty twister



I seent this only once. It was in a GLOW wrastlin match in the eighties. The Farmers Daughter did it to some huge bitch.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:19 pm to
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grab the nearest weapon, even a big stick, and prepare to fight like hell
My kinda party
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20653 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 10:24 pm to
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I would imagine they do because there are more blacks and blacks live around people.



Hah...I had to reread that.
Posted by Tigah D
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1500 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 12:16 pm to
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Unless in a wma, u must be half eaten before you can hit the bear

Spoke with a green jeans fella a few years ago about this. Said you better be in pretty rough shape from an attack in order to even contemplate citing self-defense on the great La black bear.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 12:28 pm to
I had my close encounter with a big black bear about 6 or 8 years ago in Cades Cove. It was one of the bike only mornings, and I was ahead of the pack. Came over a hill and there it was. It showed absolutely no aggression. I quietly stepped off my bike and put it between us as I was reaching for my camera. The girl I was dating at the time came riding up a few seconds later, but I was able to warn her before she got too close.

About the time I found my camera, I put down my kickstand and it spooked the bear, which ran about 10 yards into the trees and started climbing. I'm assuming the g/f getting there made its decision easier. It was a pretty cool experience to see one that close in the wild (within 15 feet). Now, had it taken 1 step toward me, I'm sure my mood would have changed very quickly.
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