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re: Gordon back to Clippers a possibility? (not for CP3)

Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:47 am to
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40909 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:47 am to
quote:

The question just becomes, is dumping Gordon and gaining Bledsoe worth taking on Jordan?



no
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94673 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:56 am to
Real GM floated this trade.

No fricking way it goes down, IMHO, as Jordan is a three-quarter player because he's godawful from the line.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34222 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Off air with Clippers writer, he said he has heard a lot of buzz from FO sources that a Bledsoe/Jordan for EG/Lopez deal could go down


I fricking hope not.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34222 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Jordan is better than Lopez.


No. Jordan is a functional retard that I want nowhere near a young team. The only thing he has on Lopez is athleticism.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32846 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:03 am to
I don't know how to feel about this. I like the athleticism of Jordan over Lopez. It makes you think he has more potential at least.

They are the same age with the same years of experience.

Looking at career percentages, Lopez has a 52% FG percentage while Jordan has a 64% FG percentage.

For his career, Lopez has 3.9 rebounds, 1.0 block and 7.2 points a game while Jordan has 6.6 rebounds, 1.5 blocks and 6.7 points per game.


That being said, I don't see how they could make this trade work. It would have to be Gordon and Vasquez or Gordon and Jason Smith with Grant Hill coming over with Jordan and Bledsoe.



After thinking about it, I'd have to do the trade if we could. That's not a bad deal for a guy who hardly ever plays.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:03 am to
If they anticipate Davis getting a little bigger, you could close games- last 4 minutes or so with Anderson/Davis. If teams want to hack Jordan early, ill take being in the bonus.

The big issue is what you raised in the Burke/Bledsoe thread- taking on Jordan and then giving Bledsoe a big extension is reckless.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115295 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:03 am to
You're probably right, I'm kind of arguing to argue here.

Its just whether dumping Gordon to get Bledsoe is worth the trade off between Jordan/Lopez.

It doesn't work as a trade, anyway.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34222 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:04 am to
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he is a good shot blocker,


Lopez had more blocks and blocks per minute this season.
Posted by Michael McNamara
Member since May 2013
9 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:06 am to
Who cares about Jordan, we could be getting ERICK FREAKING BLEDSOE :six-to-midnight:
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40909 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Real GM floated this trade.



there's the source
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34222 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:06 am to
quote:

he reminds me of tyson Chandler at this age


I think this is a major insult to Chandler. Chandler took time to develop, but was never considered a stupid player.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5870 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:06 am to
quote:

When asked what the key has been for taking DeAndre Jordan out of his game in Memphis, Lionel Hollins responded, "What is his game?"


quote:

Lionel Hollins on holding DeAndre Jordan to two rebounds: "Nobody holds anybody to two rebounds. You either get them or you don’t get them."


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115295 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:06 am to
For those complaining about Jordan's rebounding, his is better than Lopez Per 36. Offense isn't as good though.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115295 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:08 am to
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Lopez had more blocks and blocks per minute this season.




I was looking at their careers, I didn't even look at each season average.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115295 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Who cares about Jordan, we could be getting ERICK FREAKING BLEDSOE :six-to-midnight:


So you are still going to post even though you're not McNamara huh.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70436 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:09 am to
God, McNamara has no tact at all.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34222 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:09 am to
quote:

I was looking at their careers, I didn't even look at each season average.


Considering that this was the first time Lopez was really given consistent minutes, I think it is probably more indicative of his career. Also, they've both had time to improve their games, so current trajectory would seem important.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34222 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:11 am to
quote:

It would have to be Gordon and Vasquez or Gordon and Jason Smith with Grant Hill coming over with Jordan and Bledsoe.



After thinking about it, I'd have to do the trade if we could. That's not a bad deal for a guy who hardly ever plays


I have to disagree. Your trade is actually worse than the one in the OP, and even that trade is bad for us.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115295 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:13 am to
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Considering that this was the first time Lopez was really given consistent minutes


Irrelevant when looking at the Per 36 stat. His Block stat this year for Per 36 is fairly consistent with his entire career, whether he was getting minutes or not.

Deandre's has been better Per 36 throughout his career. I wouldn't say because he had 2.0 per 36 this year and 3 of the previous 4 years he was much higher says anything about his "trajectory".

Scoring and FT shooting are a completely different argument.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34222 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:17 am to
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Irrelevant when looking at the Per 36 stat


I totally disagree. More minutes means you get more consistent opportunities and allows you to feel the game out better. Just like really high minutes will end up reducing efficiencies due to fatigue. This is why PER and per 36 must be used within context. 15 minutes against backups is not as challenging per minute as 42 minutes against starters.
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