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From another board Re: Ammo availability
Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:20 pm
Found this on another board- supposedly info from a Cabela's manager:
'Talked with a manager at the local Cabela's yesterday- take away was:
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1) Obama.2 and AWB talk caused a run on EBR's. Same people are now coming back to resell them. They are wanting the $1000 price they paid for a $700 EBR and get upset when offered $500 for a 'used' gun.
2) Federal and Winchester factory reps say they are running 3-shifts 24/7/365.
2a) Federal 'was' getting ammo boxed Federal but mfg'd in Israel. Now back to USA production.
2b) Winchester-Olin plant in Illinois, down 3-months for modernization/automation, is now running. Plant in Mississippi at full capacity.
3) CCI at full capacity but scarce because of brand popularity.
4) All Lake City 5.56 is going to Military.
5) New DHS buy is a proposal. No notable increase in actual deliveries.
6) Basic reason for .22 shortage is people switching to .22 because of non-availability of other calibers.
7) Was an initial run by LGS's and GS re-seller's but now strict purchase limits even for [off-the-clock] employees.
8) Hoarders are beginning to having less effect on availability.
9) Do not know in advance what will be received. Best to order online and have shipped to local store.
10) .45/.40/.357 supply increasing - 9mm low - .380 and .22 still scarce
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Bottom line: Expect ammo supplies to improve in the next 3-months and back to near normal by year end. 10% price increase is the new norm.
Best advise is to buy extra from time-to-time in advance of next shortage.'
'Talked with a manager at the local Cabela's yesterday- take away was:
__________________
1) Obama.2 and AWB talk caused a run on EBR's. Same people are now coming back to resell them. They are wanting the $1000 price they paid for a $700 EBR and get upset when offered $500 for a 'used' gun.
2) Federal and Winchester factory reps say they are running 3-shifts 24/7/365.
2a) Federal 'was' getting ammo boxed Federal but mfg'd in Israel. Now back to USA production.
2b) Winchester-Olin plant in Illinois, down 3-months for modernization/automation, is now running. Plant in Mississippi at full capacity.
3) CCI at full capacity but scarce because of brand popularity.
4) All Lake City 5.56 is going to Military.
5) New DHS buy is a proposal. No notable increase in actual deliveries.
6) Basic reason for .22 shortage is people switching to .22 because of non-availability of other calibers.
7) Was an initial run by LGS's and GS re-seller's but now strict purchase limits even for [off-the-clock] employees.
8) Hoarders are beginning to having less effect on availability.
9) Do not know in advance what will be received. Best to order online and have shipped to local store.
10) .45/.40/.357 supply increasing - 9mm low - .380 and .22 still scarce
______________
Bottom line: Expect ammo supplies to improve in the next 3-months and back to near normal by year end. 10% price increase is the new norm.
Best advise is to buy extra from time-to-time in advance of next shortage.'
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:22 pm to weagle99
hope so
Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:24 pm to weagle99
I'll become concerned when powder and primers become scarce.
Everything else is just hysteria as reloaders are still cranking cartridges out.
Everything else is just hysteria as reloaders are still cranking cartridges out.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:35 pm to weagle99
Finally some good news. What about import companies?
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:20 am to weagle99
Not really ammo related, but Texarkana Wal-Mart had two Colt AR-15s on the shelf for a few days.
All points to hysteria dying down.
All points to hysteria dying down.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:47 am to weagle99
quote:
Best advise is to buy extra from time-to-time in advance of next waco causing another politcal mess.'
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 7:51 am
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:54 am to weagle99
quote:
Best advise is to buy extra from time-to-time in advance of next shortage.'
This is what I've done since Obama got elected in 2008. Just a box here and there when I saw it so I wouldn't ever be in a bind if we came to a shortage.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:59 am to weagle99
quote:
2) Federal and Winchester factory reps say they are running 3-shifts 24/7/365.
quote:
They are wanting the $1000 price they paid for a $700 EBR and get upset when offered $500 for a 'used' gun.
Anyone see a bubble forming and any possibility of rock bottom prices in the near future?? I have my doubts since guns and ammo are non perishable and can be stored until prices recover.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:03 am to weagle99
quote:Yep. Anyone waiting for prices to go back to pre craze levels are ignorant to historical trends. Same thing happened after each ammo scare- availability was limited, prices shot up, and settled 10-20% higher than prior to the scare.
10% price increase is the new norm.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:08 am to TigerTatorTots
Not sure about the new Mississippi Winchester plant, but when it was in Illinois, the employees sure did not like the working conditions
Unhappy Winchester employees from the old Illinois plant
Unhappy Winchester employees from the old Illinois plant
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 8:10 am
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:11 am to Crawdaddy
Where is the Mississippi plant located?
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:12 am to TigerTatorTots
Oxford
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:13 am to W
quote:
I'll become concerned when powder and primers become scarce.
Unless you have a secret source. Primers and powder have been just as scarce if not worse for primer availability.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:15 am to N2cars
There's been a colt, sig, and another brand in the cabinet at Walmart here since Monday.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:40 am to bayoudude
quote:
Primers and powder have been just as scarce if not worse for primer availability.
I've been waiting months to get my hands on certain powders. I refuse to pay hazmat shipping fees.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:42 am to Judge Smails
I thought powder had to be in a certain quantity before it was considered hazmat?
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:48 am to bayoudude
quote:
I'll become concerned when powder and primers become scarce.
Yeah, I haven't been able to find any components brass/powder/primers.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:48 am to weagle99
quote:
10% price increase is new norm
Thanks hoarders.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:50 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I promise you guys this. I wont be caught with my ammo can empty again. Call me a hoarder if you want.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:53 am to hypnos
Long asi can buy shot shells I'm fine
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