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re: The truth about Garrett Hartley
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:04 pm to CptRusty
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:04 pm to CptRusty
John Kasay in 2011: 28 of 34 for 82.4%
Garret Hartley in 2009: 9 of 11 for 81.8%
2010: 20 of 25 for 80%
2012: 18 of 22 for 81.8%
Doesn't appear to me he was really more money than Hartley, especially given he had more chances to get more into a rhythm.
Kasay for his career is 81.9%. Hartley is 84.5%. Taking out 2008(since people like to skew stats to fit their argument) he is 81%. "Big" difference.
This whole BS about him finishing so "low" in % is because all kickers are very close in % except for the extremely rare great ones or the bad ones that haven't been cut.
80% is par for the course when it comes to kickers and Hartley is on par. If we luck into one of those extremely rare great ones, fine cut him. Otherwise you are taking a chance of going back to a 2007 Mare frick or 2008 when we had a revolving door.
Garret Hartley in 2009: 9 of 11 for 81.8%
2010: 20 of 25 for 80%
2012: 18 of 22 for 81.8%
Doesn't appear to me he was really more money than Hartley, especially given he had more chances to get more into a rhythm.
Kasay for his career is 81.9%. Hartley is 84.5%. Taking out 2008(since people like to skew stats to fit their argument) he is 81%. "Big" difference.
This whole BS about him finishing so "low" in % is because all kickers are very close in % except for the extremely rare great ones or the bad ones that haven't been cut.
80% is par for the course when it comes to kickers and Hartley is on par. If we luck into one of those extremely rare great ones, fine cut him. Otherwise you are taking a chance of going back to a 2007 Mare frick or 2008 when we had a revolving door.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:07 pm to bonethug0108
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Kasay for his career is 81.9%. Hartley is 84.5%. Taking out 2008(since people like to skew stats to fit their argument) he is 81%. "Big" difference.
This whole BS about him finishing so "low" in % is because all kickers are very close in % except for the extremely rare great ones or the bad ones that haven't been cut.
80% is par for the course when it comes to kickers and Hartley is on par. If we luck into one of those extremely rare great ones, fine cut him. Otherwise you are taking a chance of going back to a 2007 Mare frick or 2008 when we had a revolving door.
Kasay who wasn't that good himself replaced Hartley. What does that tell you? This isn't a thread to support going back to Kasay, it's a thread to upgrade the kicking position. and past 5 years is a good enough sample size to dismiss a quick start for a second to get a good perspective at what he's really been for us lately.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:09 pm to bonethug0108
The John Kasey train has moved on.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:12 pm to bonethug0108
So you don't get nervous when Hartley is kicking an important 35 yarder? Because I expect that shite to get pushed hard left every time.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 1:14 pm
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