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Now that the draft is over, any vet cap casualties? Day 1 LT starter?

Posted on 4/27/13 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Zoltan
NOLA
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/27/13 at 9:29 pm
We drafted a LT and that's good, not so sure Armstead can come in an be an immediate starter, not necessarily any better that Brown at the moment. That remains to be seen. I'm not so certain we have our starting LT on the roster yet. Cap space has got to be pretty tight at the moment, I'm sure Vacarro will be included in the top 51.

There are still some veterans out there at RT, Winston, Clabo (not sure if any of these can slide over), and LT older guy like McKinnie.

Winston and Clabo would probably command around 3-4 mill. McKinnie I'm sure a little less.

Now that we at least know a good idea of who we have for cheap, can we let anyone go to try and sign a more proven LT- if even for a year?
RT could surely use an upgrade over Strief, or at least sign a LT, and shift Brown back over to the right. (Harris also showed promise last year, and we don't know what we have in Marcel Jones yet)

Potential candidates to give the pink slips to: (unless there is still guaranteed money due to some of these guys like the Harper situation, then I believe these numbers are close to accurate)

Zach Strief- Cap hit $2.375 mill this year. Prorated bonus in total is only $500k. Cutting saves ~ $1.875 mill towards the cap

-Got to think we can bring in someone more athletic or get the same amount of production from one of the younger guys for cheaper.

Malcom Jenkins- Cap hit $4.032 mill this year. Bonus deducted for 2013 only, no 2014 bonus is $1.518 mill. Cutting saves ~2.5 mill towards the cap

- Really depends on how much Quddus develops, but with Vacarro coming in and his flexibility, it could mean Jenkins is out. Jury is still out obviously.

Will Smith- Cap hit $8.5 mill this year. I'm not sure how the math works on his deal, maybe a cap guru can help me out. I know his signing bonus at least the dead money is $6.7 mill. But he has a roster bonus for 2013 of $1 mill and a workout bonus of $150k. Same for 2014 (but I imagine that doesn't matter if he is cut before the new league year starts?) I believe cutting saves ~$1.8 mill towards the cap

- With Smith I'm not sure if we will give up on him for the "veteran leadership" and being a larger guy as a 3-4 end. But if it comes down to it, the signing of Jenkins may be his undoing giving Hicks the freedom to slide to the end and having cheaper options like Coleman, Broughton, maybe even Tom Johnson, etc.

Chris Ivory also saved us $2 million towards the cap.

Anyone else? Harper probably wouldn't be worth it, Vilma's restructure precludes it.
Posted by Bduhon55
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Sep 2008
3407 posts
Posted on 4/27/13 at 9:31 pm to
There is no point in having these conversations again because its almost certain all of these guys are on the roster come September. They restructure some of these guys and that wasn't for nothing... They have dead money invested and the only one to be dropped and make sense money wise is Jenkins...he isn't going anywhere just yet
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49527 posts
Posted on 4/27/13 at 9:46 pm to
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Zach Strief- Cap hit $2.375 mill this year. Prorated bonus in total is only $500k.


Signed his deal in 2011, so it should only be $250k, but the difference is pretty insignificant.

quote:

RT, Winston, Clabo (not sure if any of these can slide over),


Doubt they can play LT, but either would be huge upgrades over Strief at a minimum cost (after cutting him) and I think the Saints have to be considering it.

I also think, at this point, the Ravens aren't interested in McKinie and that he'll cost dirt cheap.

Taking your word with the rest of the savings, I still don't see us cutting Jenkins. I'd prefer Seymour over Smith as a guy to move around both end positions, but I think Seymour is interested in coming back at a cheap price. Either way, if we cut Jenkins or Smith, I think we'd need someone in mind to replace them as would be the case with Strief/Winston/Clabo.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 4/27/13 at 10:09 pm to
Smith will be on the roster. Payton loves him and is very loyal to him. He said outside of Brees, Smith was the player he missed talking to most during his suspension.

Strief has a slight chance of getting cut, if he gets outplayed by Harris AND Jones or some surprise rookie/FA pickup. He likely stays even if he gets beat out just as a backup.

Jenkins is the only one out of that group that cutting makes sense both money wise(I think he saves us the most out of everyone on the team, tied with 1 or 2 other) and because we have someone that could replace him and already have a legit backup in Leonhard.

Looking at the rest of the roster, I see no other serious candidates as the rest either save very little or would actually cost cap room to cut(PRob for instance).
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:27 am to
Strief. Cut him. Now. Do it.
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