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Would you put Albert Belle in the Hall?

Posted on 4/24/13 at 6:55 pm
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 6:55 pm
Obviously he doesn't have much of a shot in the near future because he loathed the media and the media loathed him. He was nuts and by all accounts still is. Nobody really likes the guy. He only recently participated in an activity relating to the Indians for the first time since he left them for the White Sox.

The other reason he wouldn't be considered (aside from the fact that he played in the steroid era) is that he lacked career longevity relative to most members of the Hall. But he had an elite decade-long career, a large portion of which he was one of the two or three most feared hitters in baseball. Found this interesting tidbit from ESPN:

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Belle had more home runs (389), RBIs (1,239) and a higher OPS (933) than Kirby Puckett, who was a no-brainer first-ballot.



Puckett was more valuable in the field, more likeable on the field, and he won two World Series, three major differences between the two. He may have been just as big of a POS as Belle off the field, though.


Here are Belle's career accomplishments:

- Had a better OPS+ than Harmon Kilebrew, Reggie Jackson, Ken Griffey, Jr., and Jim Rice.

- Averaged 37 HR, 120 RBI and a roughly .360 OBP during the '90s.

- First player to hit 50 doubles and 50 home runs in a season.

- Led the league in RBIs three times and once finished second with 152 RBIs.

- Missed just 23 games in eight seasons. When Ripken ended his streak, Belle became the new consecutive games played leader.

- Made five All-Star teams, won five Silver Slugger awards, and was the real 1995 MVP.



Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 6:56 pm to
No.

Edit: The "real" 1995 mvp? How does that work?
This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32769 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 6:58 pm to
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and was the real 1995 MVP.


Posted by b rod lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4934 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 6:59 pm to

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Edit: The "real" 1995 mvp? How does that work?



GFY, that was highway robbery. Mo Vaughn my nuts.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56419 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:00 pm to
Compare his 1995 numbers to Mo Vaughn's and then get back to me.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:00 pm to
Lack of home runs/hits would keep him out regardless.... his career ending at 33 hurt him
Posted by dlmast87
Amish Country
Member since Dec 2007
1961 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:02 pm to
biggest mvp snub ever
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36775 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:02 pm to
did i make it in before someone dropped "hall of very good"?
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56419 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:03 pm to
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did i make it in before someone dropped "hall of very good"?



No because it would be a stupid comment. He was better than "very good."
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19353 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:05 pm to
If he put up those numbers before or after that era he's a 100% no doubt deserving of the HOF. But in that era their were a lot of great slugging outfielders and Belle wasn't as great as Sosa, Bonds, Griffey, Manny or even Larry Walker.
This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 7:07 pm
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:06 pm to
Kirby Puckett was a bad selection and shouldn't be used as a standard for future selections. Though Kirby at least had two World Series rings.

Belle just didn't play long enough. If you play that short of a career, you need to be Koufax.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216521 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Would you put Albert Belle in the Hall?


If only his HIP didn't fail..................


He was a GREAT player...........An offensive MACHINE .................
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
16764 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:09 pm to
He's off the ballot now
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19353 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Belle just didn't play long enough. If you play that short of a career, you need to be Koufax.


That's retarded he played 10 full seasons only stat counting idiots think thats not long enough.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56419 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:10 pm to
Which is why I asked you
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45078 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:11 pm to
No
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
16764 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:11 pm to
I would not
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:15 pm to
No but he would still be a better HOF selection than Jim Rice.
This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31258 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:17 pm to
Hall of Fame talent, but not a Hall of Fame member is probably a fair way to put it.

I would probably put him in, but I tend to err on the side of the players with the borderline guys.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216521 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

Belle just didn't play long enough



He DID. But NOT as a pitcher........



quote:

If you play that short of a career, you need to be Koufax.



I agree with this. The MOST dominating 5 years of ANY player in history............
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