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Crossed the 100K net worth barrier over the weekend

Posted on 4/14/13 at 10:36 am
Posted by HNTIGER1980
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 10:36 am
I know 100K is nothing compared to the ballers on this site. However, I'm only 32, so I think its pretty decent.
Any advise on how to keep it growing?
(note: I don't own a home yet, although I've never thought of a home as an investment asset, since it can go down in price)
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 10:43 am to
I recently bought a house so my net worth with cars is 180k.

Yes, I'm poor.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 10:47 am to
quote:

(note: I don't own a home yet, although I've never thought of a home as an investment asset, since it can go down in price)


All your investment assets can go down in price but I follow you...I think.

My net worth is negative a shite load, so I'll focus on the fact that my assets have risen 10,000 in a year and that rate should rise now that I have my 401k eligibility working for me. So, I'm looking at probably age 50 to get to 100k
This post was edited on 4/14/13 at 10:51 am
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 10:48 am to
quote:

I recently bought a house so my net worth with cars is 180k.

Yes, I'm poor.





you have to subtract any money you owe on that house or those cars to get your net worth

assets - liabilities
This post was edited on 4/14/13 at 10:49 am
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 10:49 am to
quote:

(note: I don't own a home yet, although I've never thought of a home as an investment asset, since it can go down in price)




Well, I know it's not at the bottom like it was a couple years ago, there are still great deals to be had. Interest rates are killer, as well. Just closed 30 year 3.25% last month.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 10:52 am to
quote:

you have to subtract any money you owe on that house or those cars to get your net worth

assets - liabilities



Well then,

30k.
Posted by HNTIGER1980
Member since Oct 2011
439 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 10:56 am to
What I mean is, my stock portfolio can go down. But, I still get benefit of dividends. Plus, stocks are so liquid that you can sell them easily to lock in your cap gains.

A house is a place were you sleep and take shits in , It does not earn any additional income and if the prices start dropping you won't be able to sell it. Also, even if you are capabale of selling it there is that other little fact : where the frick are you going to live?

I have been thinking of purchasing a house for rental income. Anybody got any experience with this?
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 10:57 am to
quote:

I don't own a home yet, although I've never thought of a home as an investment asset, since it can go down in price)

Well, if you buy a house that costs 100K your net worth will be zero in terms of liquid assets. And you'll be living in a POS house.

We've discussed buying v. renting here a lot. I've done well with buying. Bought my first house at 26. Made a killing on the resale.

But if you're in an occupation that requires relocation I wouldn't mess with a house purchase.
Posted by OTIS2
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 11:08 am to
A home purchase can be a very sound investment.
Posted by HNTIGER1980
Member since Oct 2011
439 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 11:09 am to
Thanks Zach!
My biggest fear with a home purchase is buying a money pit.
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 11:56 am to
your home is an asset or liability
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:02 pm to
Your house is not an asset, even if it's paid off. It ALWAYS costs money to own a home.


Asset= Puts money in your pocket

Liability= Takes money from your pocket.


Owning is cheaper than renting long term, but as another poster mentioned, if your in a profession that requires relocating, that American Dream can become a Nightmare.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Your house is not an asset, even if it's paid off. It ALWAYS costs money to own a home.


Asset= Puts money in your pocket

Liability= Takes money from your pocket.


that is incorrect
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Your house is not an asset, even if it's paid off. It ALWAYS costs money to own a home.


Asset= Puts money in your pocket

Liability= Takes money from your pocket.


Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

that is incorrect


Care to elaborate?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 12:52 pm to
Maybe Robert Kiyosaki can explain it better:

LINK


I'm not his biggest fan, but he makes a very important point here.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Maybe Robert Kiyosaki can explain it better:


I watched a few minutes of this and his explanation is not correct at all.

An asset is simply a resource you own or control. Full stop. This has nothing to do with whether it creates income or expenses. An asset can do either or both. A house is, by definition, an asset.

A liability is a claim someone else has against one of your assets. Again, this has nothing to do with whether it generates income or expenses (although it will generally result in expenses). The mortgage is a liability.

Both the asset (the house) and the mortgage (the liability) generate expenses. However, the asset has the potential to create income as well, possibly enough to offset the expenses. Even if it doesn't, so long as expenses are less than the expenses you would have if you didn't buy, you're still ahead.

For example, if you buy a home (with or without a fixed rate mortgage), your expenses are pretty constant over time. This can be very good if either interest rates or housing prices rise. Or not good if the other way around.

But either way a house is an asset (not a liability) because it is something you control. Whether it generates income or expenses does not change this.
This post was edited on 4/14/13 at 1:27 pm
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 4/14/13 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

A resource with economic value that an individual, corporation or country owns or controls with the expectation that it will provide future benefit.


I guess it depends if you consider a place to live a future benefit, he's only focusing on cash flow
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/14/13 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

if the prices start dropping you won't be able to sell it.


Sure you can. You just have to come up with additional cash to pay off the remainder of the mortgage.
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