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It's been a week now. Rutgers coach and old guys???
Posted on 4/6/13 at 9:05 am
Posted on 4/6/13 at 9:05 am
Listening to sports radio (even national which surprised) you hear guys chime in who are my age (40) give or take a few years. They are all basically covering the "pussification of America" and how "When I was a kid I had Coach ....." Then they go into their story. Usually about a guy cursing them or getting in their face.
I can only recall one guy getting in our face all the time and headbutting us. BUT we had helmets on and he would turn his hat around so you knew someone was gonna get it.
This guy is different. Throwing basketballs at guys heads? Shoving them from behind? Slapping them? I got slapped a couple times, but I had a helmet on.
Now that a week has passed I wanted the opinions on here? I know there have probably been 10 threads about this. But I do not feel like searching and bumping a thread or trying to bump a thread that may have been anchored.
And for each poster who responds, about how old are you, and do you have a son?
ETA MY Opinion. I forgot.
Guy is a total douche. Should have been fired. His rants and contact with players were more malicious and had potential to escalate. And by escalate I also mean him getting his teeth knocked out.
I can only recall one guy getting in our face all the time and headbutting us. BUT we had helmets on and he would turn his hat around so you knew someone was gonna get it.
This guy is different. Throwing basketballs at guys heads? Shoving them from behind? Slapping them? I got slapped a couple times, but I had a helmet on.
Now that a week has passed I wanted the opinions on here? I know there have probably been 10 threads about this. But I do not feel like searching and bumping a thread or trying to bump a thread that may have been anchored.
And for each poster who responds, about how old are you, and do you have a son?
ETA MY Opinion. I forgot.
Guy is a total douche. Should have been fired. His rants and contact with players were more malicious and had potential to escalate. And by escalate I also mean him getting his teeth knocked out.
This post was edited on 4/6/13 at 9:17 am
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Posted on 4/6/13 at 9:13 am to LSU alum wannabe
27 No Kids.
More than abusive, I really just thought the coach looked like a childish arse doing what he did. How does that motivate players exactly? I had a coach my varsity (two years) of basketball he would make us run stairs for everything we did wrong. That's all he did. We spent more time running stairs than playing basketball. Then he got caught cheating with the Athletic Director's wife. What a piece of shite scumbag. Anyway, there's a toughness and idiocy, and the Rutgers coach falls into the idiot category.
More than abusive, I really just thought the coach looked like a childish arse doing what he did. How does that motivate players exactly? I had a coach my varsity (two years) of basketball he would make us run stairs for everything we did wrong. That's all he did. We spent more time running stairs than playing basketball. Then he got caught cheating with the Athletic Director's wife. What a piece of shite scumbag. Anyway, there's a toughness and idiocy, and the Rutgers coach falls into the idiot category.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 9:18 am to emoney
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Then he got caught cheating with the Athletic Director's wife.
Damn! Was she hot? Needs to be to blow you life and career like that.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 9:53 am to LSU alum wannabe
Im 57. And a new jersey sports fan. Fire rice pernetti and barchi
Posted on 4/6/13 at 10:02 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
52. If what the Rutgers coach and AD did got them fired, then I had some football coaches that would have gotten arrested.
Line coach was a short man and would pull you down by the facemask to get eye to eye. One of our head coaches had a paddle that was a broken baseball bat handle, planed one side and would tell you to tighten your leg and hit the back of your thigh with that.
I have one son, but he likes sports, but not enough to play. I am fine with that.
Line coach was a short man and would pull you down by the facemask to get eye to eye. One of our head coaches had a paddle that was a broken baseball bat handle, planed one side and would tell you to tighten your leg and hit the back of your thigh with that.
I have one son, but he likes sports, but not enough to play. I am fine with that.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 10:28 am to LSU alum wannabe
52 2 kids who played most sports and I coached several.
I had plenty of in your face coaches in my life who would berate you when needed (from play ground through college). Almost all of them would also praise you when you deserved it. Back then it was the norm. In today's pussified, political correct world you can't do much of anything. I don't agree with physical abuse but yelling or grabbing your facemask while yelling doesn't bother me.
I was hard on my own kids, much harder than on others and believed in being stern but praising and teaching not abusing.
I had plenty of in your face coaches in my life who would berate you when needed (from play ground through college). Almost all of them would also praise you when you deserved it. Back then it was the norm. In today's pussified, political correct world you can't do much of anything. I don't agree with physical abuse but yelling or grabbing your facemask while yelling doesn't bother me.
I was hard on my own kids, much harder than on others and believed in being stern but praising and teaching not abusing.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 3:54 pm to LSU alum wannabe
She was an irl 6.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 4:11 pm to double d
I'd just call him old school until he threw the ball at a players face. That's crossing the line.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 4:17 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Nothing he did was totally horrible as far as an individual basis. But the fact that it happened over and over and over is the problem. Dude needs to learn how to handle his stress and anger
Posted on 4/6/13 at 4:19 pm to LSU alum wannabe
My HIGH SCHOOL football coaches did the same shite and more to us and I am only 30 years old. They would hit, berate, push, curse and pretty much anything else you can imagine to us.
I seriously cannot believe people got that mad over this. If the kids did not like it they should have quit.
I seriously cannot believe people got that mad over this. If the kids did not like it they should have quit.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 4:20 pm to beaverfever
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I'd just call him old school until he threw the ball at a players face. That's crossing the line.
SO you never had a coach throw a football at you when you screwed up playing in high school?
Posted on 4/6/13 at 4:21 pm to LaBornNRaised
well then your HS coaches were fricking tools
Posted on 4/6/13 at 4:31 pm to LaBornNRaised
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If the kids did not like it they should have quit.
And lose their scholarship?
Posted on 4/6/13 at 5:02 pm to Duke
My offensive line coach in high school would constantly grab your facemask, jersey, push players, call you worthless, fat, dumb, etc. He didn't throw footballs, but probably only because the offensive line doesn't have alot of use for footballs in separate sessions.
Two examples from my school (one elementary, one high school):
In third grade, an ADD kid (before we knew what ADD was) was constantly drumming his pencils on his desk during class one morning. The teacher asked him multiple times to stop doing it. After about the fifth time she told him "If you do it one more time today, you're going to roll that pencil up and down the hall with your nose." Sure enough, he did it again a few seconds later. That kid had to roll a pencil on his hands and knees with his nose down the entire elementary hall, which was grades 1-6. If I had to guess, at least 150 feet long one way.
When I was a senior, one of the juniors on the team forked and salted the head coach's yard during homecoming week. The coaches made him roll the entire length of the football field and back for it on his side. He puked multiple times during that exercise.
I have two kids and I'm 37. I believe a certain amount of old school technique is good for discipline, but I have to draw the line at remarks regarding sexuality and throwing at players' heads. If my kids came home and told me either of those things were happening, I'd pull them out of that sport immediately or ask that the coach be disciplined/fired. I feel for these college kids especially because it is a tenuous situation for them if they complain about it. They are on scholarship and the coach basically has full control of their scholarship. Something needs to change with that.
Two examples from my school (one elementary, one high school):
In third grade, an ADD kid (before we knew what ADD was) was constantly drumming his pencils on his desk during class one morning. The teacher asked him multiple times to stop doing it. After about the fifth time she told him "If you do it one more time today, you're going to roll that pencil up and down the hall with your nose." Sure enough, he did it again a few seconds later. That kid had to roll a pencil on his hands and knees with his nose down the entire elementary hall, which was grades 1-6. If I had to guess, at least 150 feet long one way.
When I was a senior, one of the juniors on the team forked and salted the head coach's yard during homecoming week. The coaches made him roll the entire length of the football field and back for it on his side. He puked multiple times during that exercise.
I have two kids and I'm 37. I believe a certain amount of old school technique is good for discipline, but I have to draw the line at remarks regarding sexuality and throwing at players' heads. If my kids came home and told me either of those things were happening, I'd pull them out of that sport immediately or ask that the coach be disciplined/fired. I feel for these college kids especially because it is a tenuous situation for them if they complain about it. They are on scholarship and the coach basically has full control of their scholarship. Something needs to change with that.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 5:10 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Anybody who thinks it wasn't that bad needs to go watch the assistant coach's tapes. The shite he was doing was much worse than Rice. At least when Rice hit a player he'd back off, this a-hole would boot up to the player knowing they couldn't do anything.
The AD saw that and didn't do shite about it. Any defense of the AD for trying to "rehabilitate" Rice is BS because there was another coach on staff doing the same completely unchecked.
The AD saw that and didn't do shite about it. Any defense of the AD for trying to "rehabilitate" Rice is BS because there was another coach on staff doing the same completely unchecked.
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