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Who thinks Charles Brown is good enough?

Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:29 pm
To start this year, I kinda think we could be okay given our system.
Posted by Bduhon55
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:31 pm to
I think he could be a quality tackle and groomed Into a good starter however I think he is injured too much
Posted by Zoombop
Westbank
Member since Feb 2013
987 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:31 pm to
If he stays healthy, then he could probably be an upgrade. Very athletic with good feet and strength. He finally came around last year at RT when Streif went down, but like always, he got injured. Definitely need to bring in a veteran.
Posted by MISSIPSAINT
Magee
Member since Feb 2013
438 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:31 pm to
I do but I want some competition pushing him to make him better.
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
Member since Jan 2012
6180 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:32 pm to
Seems like anyone we plug in at tackle is a pro bowler
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:35 pm to
He has the talent to easily be another bushrod or slightly better, but I expect him to be a little worse. If bushrod was average then brown will be slightly below average. His deficiencies would be mostly masked by play calling (te on his side of the line) and Brees' ability to move in the pocket.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5610 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:38 pm to
I personally think we need two OT's, maybe a free agent and a draft pick. Competition at each spot and some quality back up help is needed. Our poor guys were abused last year and Drew ran for his life.
But WTF do I know, in CSP I trust.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18412 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:39 pm to
If Brown starts the first game, we are in trouble. We will definitely sign an experienced left tackle shortly.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179315 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:41 pm to
We weren't in trouble when he started before
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76631 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:44 pm to
From what I've seen i wouldn't want him to be option #1 at LT.
I trust the FO has a plan. A very fine plan.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:51 pm to
I don't think it makes a flying shite who we put over there they will be fine. The way our line is built its the middle 3 that matter not the tackles. I can remember when J.Brown left everybody was freaking out because Bushrod was gonna start and they were sure he would suck. Brown will be just fine over there. Pro Bowl in the next 3 years if he starts.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:52 pm to
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Seems like anyone we plug in at tackle is a pro bowler


+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23661 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:55 pm to
I think you guys are underestimating Marcel Jones, 7th rounder last draft. He will push to be a quality backup and would step in if needed. He probably isn't ready to start, but could push the guy in front of him ( pun intended ).
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16324 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 8:58 pm to
I thought he was our worst lineman last year. Everytime he got in the game, he seemed to allow pressure or it was his man tackling the RB.

Even that 3rd string scrub allowed less pressure/disruption than Brown did.

Don't fall into the Tennant trap of believing a guy just cuz he had the measurables for the position and/or was drafted relatively high. I'll take UDFA producers like DLP or Eric Olsen over the drafted "can't-put-it-together" Tennant's & Brown's any day of the week.

Point is, Brown is not the answer.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72170 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 9:02 pm to
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I don't think it makes a flying shite who we put over there they will be fine


I think it's easy to look at it that way and then end up in deep shite.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22942 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

If he stays healthy, then he could probably be an upgrade. Very athletic with good feet and strength. He finally came around last year at RT when Streif went down, but like always, he got injured.


This. Brown has shown to be more then capable even in limited playing time though. It could be argued that he was/is the most talented OT on the roster but its obvious the cons against him are inexperience & that has been injury prone.

There definitely needs to be some competition brought in to back up Brown if the team plans to give Brown a chance to takeover the starting position just because no ones knows if he can make it through a season without injury.

The fans who are in doom & gloom mode if the organization plans to give Brown to win the starting role obviously hasn't watched Brown closely enough when he has been on the field. He's very light on his feet & packs a physical "punch" when engaging defense lineman.

Last preseason against the Patriots, Bushrod was getting his arse handed to him by Chandler Jones. Jones ended up having a solid rookie season & shows to have a bright future. After Bushrod was pulled late in the first quarter though, Brown put an end to Jones pressuring the quarterback. This probably went unnoticed because it was "only a preseason game" but it stuck with me because it was rather impressive. It wasn't just that preseason game though. Brown was really had a good game against the Eagles this past season too.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36236 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 9:15 pm to
Besides the Eagles game, Brown played well last year. I'm kind of worried about Kromer being gone now though.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18412 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

This. Brown has shown to be more then capable even in limited playing time though. It could be argued that he was/is the most talented OT on the roster but its obvious the cons against him are inexperience & that has been injury prone.

There definitely needs to be some competition brought in to back up Brown if the team plans to give Brown a chance to takeover the starting position just because no ones knows if he can make it through a season without injury.

The fans who are in doom & gloom mode if the organization plans to give Brown to win the starting role obviously hasn't watched Brown closely enough when he has been on the field. He's very light on his feet & packs a physical "punch" when engaging defense lineman.

Last preseason against the Patriots, Bushrod was getting his arse handed to him by Chandler Jones. Jones ended up having a solid rookie season & shows to have a bright future. After Bushrod was pulled late in the first quarter though, Brown put an end to Jones pressuring the quarterback. This probably went unnoticed because it was "only a preseason game" but it stuck with me because it was rather impressive. It wasn't just that preseason game though. Brown was really had a good game against the Eagles this past season too.


Did you bother to watch the 2011 game against the Rams. I will concede that there is no way he could play any worse than in that game. I guess the sky's the limit in his upside though.

LINK

Look how well Brown did in the first few drives and no he didn't finish the game as he got injured.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 10:18 pm to
Why? So he can break his leg? I don't think this guy has lasted an entire season as a Saint yet.

I have no idea where you guys get off saying he's a good lineman. Have you not watched the same games as me or even remember him at LT? He got straight abused there. He's not even all that great at RT, IMO. Which is probably better suited for him...

Dude has been a 2nd-round bust for us.
This post was edited on 3/12/13 at 10:23 pm
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8220 posts
Posted on 3/12/13 at 10:23 pm to
I don't think we have enough money to get a quality LT in FA. We will probably draft someone after the third round and roll the dice with what we have this year.
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