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Tigerdew  LSU Fan Upper St. Bernard Member since Dec 2003 9028 posts
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| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 7:48 pm to tgrbaitn08)
I played the sport from age 4-college, umpired and coached ages 5-13 and I can honestly say that what the crazy shite has become today is insane. Just be prepared to deal with a lot of bull shite from the parents.
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Forgiving Morgan  Alabama Fan GUMP MODE: [ON] OFF Member since Nov 2010 404 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 7:51 pm to Tigerdew)
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I played the sport from age 4-college, umpired and coached ages 5-13 and I can honestly say that what the crazy shite has become today is insane. Just be prepared to deal with a lot of bull shite from the parents.
Not what I was hoping to hear, but based on the consensus, I guess I need to be preparing myself for this reality.
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Geauxtiga NC-Wilmington Fan No man's land Member since Jan 2008 24361 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 7:55 pm to Forgiving Morgan)
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I guess I need to be preparing myself for this reality.
Most of the parents will be okay. It's that 1 or 2 on every team that skew our perception. Just develop thick skin, if you don't have it already, do what you know is right and treat the kids with firmness but love, you may be the only rational one they come into contact with. Oh and stand up to them phuckers if situation presents iteself. Their kids will applaud you, inside. 
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Forgiving Morgan  Alabama Fan GUMP MODE: [ON] OFF Member since Nov 2010 404 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 7:56 pm to Geauxtiga)
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Geauxtiga
Thanks for the advice and encouragement. It's going to be an interesting ride one way or another.
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tgrbaitn08  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Dec 2007 26108 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 7:56 pm to Tigerdew)
I agree 100%
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OWLFAN86  Rice Fan Admins??? more like fagmins... Member since Jun 2004 108131 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 7:57 pm to Geauxtiga)
heres a DAMN GOOD SUGGESTION tell the parents,, if you come to me to complain about your sons playing time, position or batting order he will ride the bench the next game,,even if it mean we forfeit and stick to it , do it once and they'll never interfere again
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East Coast Band  Alabama Fan Member since Nov 2010 9452 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 7:58 pm to Forgiving Morgan)
Every parent lives their own unfulfilled Major League Hall of Fame careers through their dopey 8 year old kid. Further, they expect said dopey kid to be able to turn double plays just like Texiera, Jeter and Cano do for the Yankees. and if they can't, they want you to work them harder. if only some parents emphasized their kids algebra as much as baseball....
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badlands  Florida Fan Member since Apr 2008 1107 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 7:59 pm to Tigerdew)
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shite has become today is insane. Just be prepared to deal with a lot of bull shite from the parents.
yep
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Tigerdew  LSU Fan Upper St. Bernard Member since Dec 2003 9028 posts
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| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:04 pm to Forgiving Morgan)
The kids will be awesome, especially when you tell them you played college ball. That's why I think it's important to let the parents know from the start you aren't to be fricked with. Kind of the "punch the biggest guy in the face first so everyone knows you're serious" mentality. 
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tigerskin  LSU Fan Member since Nov 2004 7638 posts
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| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:06 pm to Forgiving Morgan)
I don't know anything about that league but have recently coached basketball and baseball for those ages. There will always be some kind of an issue with a parent but it can be somewhat helpful to lay out your philosophy beforehand. Are you playing to win or is it a rec style everyone plays the same amount deal? The decisions you make will be vastly different if you are playing to win. Some rec parents totally don't understand that. Look at the rules and decide how you plan on playing. Explain to the parents that you will be working with all the kids to teach them more about the game regardless of the position or amount of playing time the child gets. Regardless, some parents will have tunnel vision. Don't get your feelings hurt or take it personal. Just call it like you see it and work with all of them so that regardless of each player's skill level, they get something out of it.
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TROLA  LSU Fan BATON ROUGE Member since Apr 2004 5212 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:07 pm to Forgiving Morgan)
If you're volunteering, practice the following line... "Take it out of my next paycheck" and walk away.
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Tigerdew  LSU Fan Upper St. Bernard Member since Dec 2003 9028 posts
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| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:11 pm to East Coast Band)
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Every parent lives their own unfulfilled Major League Hall of Fame careers through their dopey 8 year old kid. Further, they expect said dopey kid to be able to turn double plays just like Texiera, Jeter and Cano do for the Yankees. and if they can't, they want you to work them harder. if only some parents emphasized their kids algebra as much as baseball....
I once had a parent pull his 11yr old out of a bullpen because I wouldn't let him throw side-armed. I am a firm believer in not teaching that to kids with developing muscles. Anyway, psycho dad yelled at me that Smoke Laval offered his kid a scholarship at the LSU baseball camp....... at 11. I told him he could throw side-armed when he got there. 
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tigerskin  LSU Fan Member since Nov 2004 7638 posts
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| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:15 pm to tigerskin)
If you are playing to win, don't forget to get the weaker kids a lot of action when you are blowing somebody out or getting blown out (hopefully that won't happen).
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geauxbrown  LSU Fan South Carolina Member since Oct 2006 1601 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:19 pm to tigerskin)
Tell the parents not to approach you after a game if they're pissed. Wait 24 hours to call you. It's my number one rule and have been coaching kids for 20 years. Leave nothing to chance with your team and parent rules. If you let them know up front what you expect you will avoid a ton of shite later on
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OWLFAN86  Rice Fan Admins??? more like fagmins... Member since Jun 2004 108131 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:21 pm to geauxbrown)
first rule kid with hot single mom bats first and plays short
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Fat Man  LSU Fan Covington, Atlanta, Winston-Salem Member since Jan 2006 5890 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:21 pm to Forgiving Morgan)
Praise in public, chastize in private. This is the secret to getting the most out of the players and harmony with the parents.
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tgrbaitn08  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Dec 2007 26108 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:23 pm to OWLFAN86)
Well in Mexico all the moms are hot so I'd imagine that would be an issue for you
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OWLFAN86  Rice Fan Admins??? more like fagmins... Member since Jun 2004 108131 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:27 pm to tgrbaitn08)
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Well in Mexico all the moms are hot so I'd imagine that would be an issue for you
Im not Mexi ah frick it
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Bho  Kentucky Fan In DB10_AFC's Head Member since Dec 2007 20861 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:28 pm to Forgiving Morgan)
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That being said, does anyone have recent experience on what to expect from the kids and parents in this age group?
I have coached 13-15 year olds for the last 8 years. Be very careful what you say. The kids will tell their parents and you will catch shite for it. I filled my coaching staff with no dads, that way nobody could question who we played. We played the best players and subbed appropriately. The first couple of years was rough, but parents now beg for us to draft their kids knowing that we A) know what we are doing and B) Don't play that daddy ball bull shite. At the age you are coaching and even where I am, you have to remember its a game. I want to win more than anyone, but I have 2 rules. 1-Play hard all of the time 2-Don't embarrass yourself or the team by acting stupid. You will have shitty parents and kids but remember the majority appreciate you are giving up time to help their children.
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Forgiving Morgan  Alabama Fan GUMP MODE: [ON] OFF Member since Nov 2010 404 posts

| re: Taking the Plunge- Coaching 11-12 year old baseball (Update page 4) (Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:28 pm to geauxbrown)
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Tell the parents not to approach you after a game if they're pissed. Wait 24 hours to call you. It's my number one rule and have been coaching kids for 20 years. Leave nothing to chance with your team and parent rules. If you let them know up front what you expect you will avoid a ton of shite later on
Sounds like great advice. Thank you.
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