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And we roll on. Endor Sucks.
So after Luke and his pals interrupt a serious mission briefing with light hearted one liners, hugging and being selfish pricks, We are introduced to the the main plot of this movie. Who is excited for trees? So after being treated to places like Yavin, the Death Star, Imperial Star Destroyers, Tattooine, Hoth, Degabah, and cloud city (bespin) we get a shitload of trees that any of us can go outside and see. Basically after going to tunisia and london, lucas was burned out. Kershner had to film on a glacier in Norway, but lucas wasn't involved at all in the production. Now he has a hand puppet director and he is pretty much running shite again. So you know there is no way he is going to tunisia again, when he can just shoot in northern california where he lives. Granted, I now appreciate even this. I mean he did get out of his chair.

Obi Wan sucks in this movie
Before Luke rudely interrupts the mission briefings, he returns to finish training with yoda. Ummm, I'm kind of over luke training at this point. He's supposed to be a fricking jedi at this point in the trilogy. oh good yoda dies in like 2 seconds and luke doesn't really seem all that bothered. Then obi wan shows up and Luke ain't even mad bra. Point of View? WTF Lucas, cant obi wan just say that he was afraid to tell luke before his training was over because he was afraid he either wouldn't face vader or would join him or something. Instead we get some bullshite about truth from a point of view making wise old obi wan sound like Bill Clinton explaining what "is" is. Now aside from Obi Wan's stupid haircut, everything in this scene is wrong. For one, why is ghost obi wan sitting down? Are his force bones hurting? The blocking sucks. Why isn't he standing up, mysteriously, lordly and briefly while luke is on his knees crying/panicing over yoda's death and the new found knowledge he has a sibling and must face his father.



Nope! I felt like these two probably just chit chatted seinfeld style for hours after the scene ends

Production Values. Where are they?
Without a doubt my favorite aspect, visually, when it comes to the star wars trilogy are the fantastic sets in Star Wars and Empire. The death Star sets, the hoth base sets, cloud city, degobah?? and others. Now this movie has one fantastic set in the throne room (its right up there with the carbon freeze chamber as my favorite in the series) but does anything come to mind after that? Ummm, I guess they showed us like one room in jabba's palace and then the same room on his barge. It seems like Lucas just went outside on his ranch and shot a star wars movie. Now even the special effects aren't any good. This is the one movie where I'm all in favor of specializing and "enhancing" the frick out of it because everything from the aliens to the rancor looks like shite

Ewoks
I hate ewoks, and I'll just assume that I don't need to explain the absurdity of a band of cuddly ill equiped creatures taking down an entire army of highly trained stormtroopers with speeders, walker and guns.

What happened to the Characters?
All of the characters, who were so fleshed out in empire, seem to have disappeared. Han's dialogue and arrogant attitude seem forced. I cringed watching the gags with him last night. He also looks like he gained 20 lbs and aged 10 years while frozen in carbonite, but thats a minor thing. WTF happened to leia. I always liked Leia. She was a feisty little sniz who possessed a worldly charm, now she's this really nice and sweet woman in love. Since when does falling in love mean you both have to act like fricking teenagers in a mall? god dammit the writing in this movie is awful. Han acts like a jealous 12 year old and then completely against character, just lays down and apologizes to leia, who he thinks is in love with luke. And speaking of romance

Lucas takes the easy way out of a tense and complicated love triangle

So it's pretty clear in the first two movies that there is a subtle but distinct love triangle. leia kisses luke twice. Han and Luke are jealous of one another. "do you think a girl like her and a guy like me could..." Luke cuts him off "NO"
How about we see Luke and Leia's dynamic has changed while han has been in carbonite and we experience this from his POV? There could be an undercurrent of tension between the 3 throughout the movie. Han dies, Leia is crushed at the end, but Luke knowing she chose han and he has a sibling or sister somewhere walks off like eastwood in search for his sister and on his long journey to rebuilding the jedi order. Thats 20x better and I don't even have an imagination and I'm no fricking screenwriter. But no, Leia is his sister, empire is awkward and the love triangle is resolved without any tension, passion or despair.

tl;dr

With Return of the Jedi, Lucas was not interested in making something along the lines of Empire Strikes back. This at the time, was the last film ever in the Star Wars universe. So basically he wanted to make sure he can cash in his cash cow.

There was also too many other things going on behind the scenes. Like a ton of scrip rewrites, and Lucas trying to prove that he could direct and make a more epic picture without the help of some of the ppl from Empire. The same thing he did with the prequels. Try to prove that he was a better director and story teller. Had they not messed with the original script idea, and given the reigns over to someone else. Jedi would have been ended up much different as a result.

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Why is Boba Fett in the palace? I thought he was a bounty hunter who would be out picking up contracts and/or capturing/killing targets, but instead he seems to be acting as Jabba's own bodygaurd. fricking lame. To top it off they take the mystique off of the most mysterious, bad arse bounty hunter in the galaxy by having him die as gag. I think the sarlaac pit even burps...ugh

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correct me if i'm wrong but isn't boba fett trying to collect a bounty from jabba? doesn't he say in "empire": "He's no good to me dead" to Vader and Vader says he will compensate BF if solo doesn't survive the carbonite freezing?

basically i think he's "hanging around" b/c jabba won't pay him until after he's unfrozen.

but you're totally right on his death. Fett had a terrible death that was very hacky.

Okay, My gripe about Lucas screwing with these movies.

He put Hayden Christensan in as Anakin the Force Ghost at the end of Jedi. My question: Why? ObiWan and Yoda look exactly like they did when they passed, but Anakin looks like he did 30 years ago? What for? If Luke really does redeem him before he passes, and he goes back to the lite side, shouldn't he be the guy that got scrapped?

Haven't read the entire thread, but the fact that Endor was initially supposed to be populated by Wookies, not Ewoks, is enough to piss me off.