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re: If Seinfeld Got the Girls Treatments
Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:46 am to corndeaux
Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:46 am to corndeaux
i'll get into the article in detail in a sec, but there are 2 main differences in these shows, and i can sum it up in 2 words: reality and sympathy
1. reality: seinfeld isn't supposed to be a reflection of reality. the characters are not real people. they're archetypes of characters who are nothing more than tools to serve the show's purpose (exposing social norms/behaviors that are silly). girls is supposed to be a reflection of society, and therefore is not comparable to seinfeld
2. sympathy: in no way are we supposed to be sympathetic towards the characters. other than the fact that they're not real, they are bad, bad people. this was the entire point of the finale. we are supposed to feel massive amounts of sympathy towards the characters, and this is accelerating in season 2. hannah and jessa got entire episodes that were basically "this is why you feel bad for this terrible person, and make excuses for them." that did not exist in seinfeld
1. reality: seinfeld isn't supposed to be a reflection of reality. the characters are not real people. they're archetypes of characters who are nothing more than tools to serve the show's purpose (exposing social norms/behaviors that are silly). girls is supposed to be a reflection of society, and therefore is not comparable to seinfeld
2. sympathy: in no way are we supposed to be sympathetic towards the characters. other than the fact that they're not real, they are bad, bad people. this was the entire point of the finale. we are supposed to feel massive amounts of sympathy towards the characters, and this is accelerating in season 2. hannah and jessa got entire episodes that were basically "this is why you feel bad for this terrible person, and make excuses for them." that did not exist in seinfeld
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
I dont know about the reality critique. Early Seinfeld was pretty grounded.It wasnt until later that things get wacky.
And the likeability critique is fine, but comparing a 9 season network (episode order is why I make that distinction) series finale to 17 episodes of a series seems a bit unfair
And the likeability critique is fine, but comparing a 9 season network (episode order is why I make that distinction) series finale to 17 episodes of a series seems a bit unfair
Posted on 3/5/13 at 9:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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1. reality: seinfeld isn't supposed to be a reflection of reality. the characters are not real people. they're archetypes of characters
This is exactly analogous to Girls.
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2. sympathy: in no way are we supposed to be sympathetic towards the characters.
This is just flat-out wrong. You couldn't have a show at all without being somewhat sympathetic toward the characters, even if you know objectively they are rather bad people.
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